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Jim Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:22:04 -0500
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one thing you can try first is the press control plus on the number pad to 
make that window wider.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!


> Howard,
>
> I don't think the file list is being truncated by Jaws, but even if it is,
> you can get around it by pressing Alt plus one of the numbers 1 through 7.
> Each of these numbers will read one of the items in the details (date
> modified, file size, file type, etc.).  Even when the information isn't
> visible, these functions will read the items correctly.  I'm sure this is
> covered somewhere in JFW's Help system, but I don't know where, and didn't
> learn it from there anyway.  A friend of mine told me about all this just 
> a
> few weeks ago, and I've been using it to good advantage since.  You can 
> also
> customize the details list in Windows itself, and part of that 
> customization
> is the ability to increase the size of the columns.  It's a pain to do, 
> and
> involves locking the left mouse button and dragging the column headers 
> right
> or left, but it can be done if you have the patience.  Of course, it's 
> much
> easier to do if you can get sighted assistance, which I realize is often 
> not
> easy or even possible.  I'm totally blind, and I've done it, but I'd 
> really
> rather not, which is why I like the functions I've described above.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:43
> Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!
>
>
>> Yes it shows off scripting nicely.  the window-eyes title bar reads
>> the information manually, and I don't know why it can'b be triggered
>> automatically, but I sure haven't been able to do it, and I figure
>> their are minds much better than nmine who would have done it if it
>> was easy.  I don't want and have tried not to be catigorized as a
>> freedom jfw basher, just because it is big.  I have tried to advocate
>> for choice and to express valid concerns about jfw and freedom
>> scientiffic's draw bbacks.  No company or product is perfect.  The
>> issue here is that their are a number of choices.  People aught to be
>> able to make enformed choices about the options, especially when the
>> money on the table is their own money.
>> Most all of what we do is windows, and not screen reader spaciffic
>> after all.  A competant computer user who needs one screen reader for
>> work, but has learned on another, should be able to make the transition.
>> It's not exactly like going from unix to windows.  People make the
>> chasum that wide.  but windows hot keys are in windows, not in any
>> screen reader.  I hear that jfw takes over a few of them, but their
>> is still a bypass key if necessary, and I think most of that is in
>> name, not in function.
>> I use window-eyes when I can, and jfw when I have to.
>> I wonder, what do you have to do to get jfw to read a file list with
>> your chosen details properly.  Their way of trunkating names makes
>> many operations very difficult.  I assume their is a work around
>> which I wish they would put in their default set up.
>>
>>
>>
>
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