Most of the time we used either a Wollensak, Revier, Webcore or sometimes
Wilcox Gay/allied radio I think, tape machine, and you couldn't talk over
intros, but you could flat do some long range AM broadcasting, most of the
"inventor's doings were on 1620kc, and we had a couple of reports of WFSB
being heard eight or so miles out from school.  Funny thing, sometimes my
buddy would take his broadcasting antenna, some TV twinlead, down, and run
it instead, as speaker connect wire, so he could play his music for dances,
and at the same time broadcast what was going on, over a smaller area of
course, but on the air, nonetheless.  what a lot of fun, and what a can of
worms, hi hi.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Using HT as tuning aid for FM radio


> Hi Danny,
>
> Oh boy! this one brings back memories.  In 1968 I got a MIRK
> radio--multi-band radio that covered AM, FM, Shortwave 4 to 16 MHZ and the
> 30 to 50MHZ and 147-174 MHZ bands.  I took the back off this radio (see
he's
> dangerous even at an early age) and discovered precisely what you
reported.
> I hooked it up to a 100 foot piece of wire and that thing when hooked into
> an old Reel to Reel Sony tape machine put out a reasonable sounding FM
(mono
> of course) signal for about 3 blocks (directional) from my house.  In
> addition, if I pressed down the record button along with the pause button
> between songs, I could get reasonably clear audio from the 5 dollar
> microphone supplied with the tape machine--but I couldn't talk over the
> songs while they were playing <g>!
>
> Such memories!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Danny Dyer" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Using HT as tuning aid for FM radio
>
>
> Similar to the 455kc IF carrier a typical AM broadcast radio puts out,
455kc
> above the tuned frequency.  There was a fellow at VSDB, Va School For The
> Deaf And Blind, in Staunton, who figured out how to tap into the
oscilators
> in those old tube type radios, and there were several AM transmitters to
> which one atatched some type of audio amp, with which to modulate it, and
a
> wire of some type for a transmitting  antenna, and voila, a ready made,
> pretty stable, normally pretty good sounding AM radio station---usually
more
> powerful than the average Phono Oscilator of the day, (for several years
> after I got into commercial broadcasting, I had more radio experience than
> legal experience.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Using HT as tuning aid for FM radio
>
>
> > Hi Colin.
> >
> > What causes this is that you are actually picking up one of the mixing
> > products that is used when the local oscillator in the FM radio is mixed
> > down to the 10.7 MHz intermediate frequency.
> >
> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >
> > At 12:00 AM 1/24/2007 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I never tried that trick until now...works absolutely great.
> > >Using an old short wave receiver with FM in it, and putting the ict90
on
> > >wide FM, i could actually listen to the audio clearly on the HT when
the
> > >receiver was tuned to a station 10.7MHZ down from the HT's receive
> > >frequency..
> > >What exactly causes this?
> > >Presumably the receiver is resonating at that frequency and causing
some
> > >sort of signal to be inducted into the HT?
> > >I didn't test how far away from the receiver I could go before losing
the
> > >audio on the HT....perhaps tomorrow.
> > >73
> > >Colin, CF6BKX
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Kenneth Lee" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:45 PM
> > >Subject: Using HT as tuning aid for FM radio
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyone ever try using their wide-band receiving HT to aid in tuning
an
> > > > analogue FM broadcast radio.  I was trying to find a weak fm station
> on my
> > > > table top radio (it's a Teac R1 radio with analogue tuning).  I
wanted
> to
> > >be
> > > > sure I was on frequency before adjusting the antenna so I added the
> 10.7
> > >1st
> > > > IF frequency to the station I wanted to receive and punched it into
my
> > >T90.
> > > > The station is on 103.1 WRNR, so I punched 113.8 into the HT and
> opened
> > >the
> > > > squelch on the HT.  Then I tuned the Teac until I heard a "bump" in
> the
> > > > static.  I verified this works by tuning into several known local
> > >stations.
> > > > I guess the Teac is not very well shielded because I could hear the
> > >station
> > > > I was tuned to over the HT.  I also tried this trick on my Tivoli
> Model 1
> > > > and an old RS MTA-8 radio and the technique worked on all.  This
trick
> > > > doesn't work as well on stations below 97.3 since adding the 10.7 IF
> > > > frequency may put you on another strong broadcaster.
> > > >
> > > > For the record, the Teac is no dx'er but sounds great on the local
> > >stations,
> > > > I could not hear WRNR at all on the Teac or RS radios.  The same
> station
> > >is
> > > > useable (some noise) on the Tivoli and almost full quiting on my
> Sat800.
> > >I
> > > > am being unfair to the Tivoli since it's at ground level and the
> Sat800 is
> > > > upstairs.
> > > >
> > > > 73, Ken -N5SWR
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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> > >6:48 PM
> >
> > Louis Kim Kline
> > A.R.S. K2LKK
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