You are a great man and a storehouse of immense knowledge. Much in the same
vein as our own Laye. Now you see why I effort to give you good advice in
other areas of life. Because I want to cherish your excellences.
As I said before, the idiot's write-up should have been left where it
belonged, The SamEcho. I hope my friend Sankara of Nincampooh fame reconnoitres.
All that glitters is not gold. Faeces are golden, roses are red, and violets
could be considered blue most often. Mirages my dear. Mirages.
Suntou, I think you're in the wrong party in PDOIS. I want you to leave
PDOIS right now and join either APRC, or UDP/NRP. Kaput. I'm gonna catch a lotta
hell for this!! Woh!!!
Kukeh, you're a beautiful man. I loved our chat and I'm even prouder of you
in person than on the net. I haven't seen your picture but I know you must be
handsome like Galleh, Laye, Suntou, Ousman, Ylva, and myself.
Sorry Ylva, meant for a compliment.
Masoud. MQDT. Darbo. The most handsomest (kids, don't try this at home) guy
in the world. Al Mutawakkil.
In a message dated 12/29/2007 9:38:35 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
A red card to Sam.my view.
Sam Sarr recently authored an interesting article hinged on his perception
of tribalism in Gambia. The topic, a ''genesis of tribalism in Gambian
politics'' was posted on Gambia echo.com.. It is worth to mention that a topic of
such high significance was started well by Sam but sadly he ended up muddling
the whole issue twisting the story into some personal attacks on some of our
ex-politicians some of whom deceased. He did not even pay respect to their
belated souls as matter of courtesy. Samsudeen Sarr mentioned that, the PPP
was created solely for tribal reasons. He also stated that the former leader
and president of the Gambia DK Jawara himself was tribal. According to
Samsideen Sarr ex-president Jawara later changed his attitude by accommodating to
other tribes.
Contrary to what Sarr implied The Gambia is today blessed with many renown
historians and elders who can better explain the early days of multi-party
politics in the Gambia and circumstances that led to formation of the PPP .For
me, the little knowledge I have of the history of the PPP shows that it was
not a party based on tribe .The PPP I understood came into being in response to
the isolation and marginalization meted out to people of the protectorate by
Banjul of elites. The United Party UP was headed by PS Njie with little or
inclusion of people from the protectorate. As a result of that, Jawara and
some other Gambians decided to form the Protectorate People’s Party PPP later
renamed People’s Progressive Party which takes its firm roots from the
protectorate. The protectorate constituted mainly hinterlands of the Gambia River
.All towns and villages outside the scope of the greater Banjul are referred to
as the protectorate or provinces as now better known. The areas
called the protectorate is inhibited by every tribe in the Gambia; Fula,
Mandinka, Sarahuleh, Wolof, Serre, Manjako, Jola with their varied dialects. Now
Sam wishes us to believe that it was only the Mandinka speaking populace
that formed the PPP and voted the PPP into power.
Reason dictates that Sam's hold on that is wrong and full of fallacy. He
manifests a dangerous thinking pattern which deserves a place in the garbage
bin. The PPP had core voters among all ethnic groups of Gambia. Sarr’s bid to
divide all those tribes for a political score is quite cheap. One can still
find prominent Fulas, Sarahulehs, Wollof and Mandinkas who sponsored the PPP
both financially and in person through their campaign trails. Yet Sam
short-sightedly excluded all those people just to exhibit his misguided agenda.
In Sam's quest to start a debate of tribalism in Gambian politics, he went
out of his way to name individuals like the late Dr Saho,Dr Manneh,SM Dibba of
heavy involvement in the politics of tribalism. I wonder how old Sam was at
that time for him to speak with the authority he spoke on the pages of the
Gambia echo?
Sam also absolved his own person and his immediate family of having any sort
of tribalism. He went of out of his way to narrate his fathers business and
how he employed non-Wollof speakers in his trucking business .He wished us to
believe that such actions are a sign of being free from tribalism. Curious
observers wonder how his father's business fits in the politics of tribalism.
It doesn't make any sense to clever analysts. One thing we know is that his
father was not a politician. If he was Sam never mention that.
Sam vehemently doubted the doctorate degrees of both Dr Saho and Dr Manneh
.In so doing Sam breaks all the rules of decency he wish us to debate the
topic on. What does he want to prove by questioning the authencity of degrees of
both Dr Saho and Dr Manneh?
To remain within the boundaries of his topic it falls in good place to ask
the logical parameter Sam chooses to device. How relevant the tribe of both
men comes into this equation beats good thinkers by measures of what Sam seeks
to conclude.
Taking into account the level of tolerance by other speakers of Wollof
outside of the Wollof tribe Sam is completely divorced from the facts of his own
allegations. There are far more cases of other language groupings speaking
Wolof very fluently compared to native Wollof speakers trying the other
languages. That is due to the manifest of maturity by others and not so much because
Wollof is any richer than other languages of Gambia. Any person who
willingly speaks and is tolerant of other tribes is not manifestly tribalist.
Again, in our Gambian context how many Mandinkas Fulas, Serrer and Jolas speak
Wolof fluently and how many Wolofs speaks those languages even casually or
fluently? Sarr himself is a Serrer by tribe, but he speaks from a Wolof angle, now
if the Serere aren't tolerant and accommodating to the Wolof language why
should they choose to speak Wolof or even adopt Wolof as a mother tongue?
Sam need to carry out a simple research into which tribes willingly speaks
say Wolof without any force? Many speaks Wolof as a language not that they
don't like their language or are ashamed of speaking their language but because
they choose to do it freely.
Why did I choose Wolof to give as an example? Simple, Sam is writing from a
Wollof angle and for that we need to put things in context. He subliminally
wants to make us believe that his Wolof upbringing taught him become a better
person in life while the rest, especially Mandinka speaking intellectuals and
academics do not merit their qualifications. Sam what is your basis of
authority? What research have you commissioned on the superiority of non Wollof
intellectuals of Gambia? Will you please share your hard ground findings? .Dr
Saho married a Fula wife from Mansajang bearing children with her.Infact the
children of Dr Saho speaks Wolof as good as any Gambian does. Does that mean
the late Dr Saho is free from the politics of tribalism? No. But it
indicates that the late Dr Saho did not stop his children speaking Wollof even in his
home.
Sam's own educational background. Let's do the adding up. You wrote so much
but never a word about how you worked as a metal worker in the Yundum
Agriculture Mechanical Workshop. What happened about the young girl who later
became Head Girl in the school you once taught? Since you care to question about
the qualification of others, we might as well begin the count from yourself.
Since you wrote this piece in focus so much information is obtained that will
now be reserved until you advance on then we carry on.
The editor of the Gambia echo may not publish the rejoinder but
fortunately, there are many other mediums to disseminate information relevant to our
national interest.
I do not wish to take Sam's line of debating and I have nothing against
Wollof as a tribe or a language. We must all start to try our best in
understanding the tribal settings of our fellow country men/women. How many of us know
how the Manjakos exchange greetings, or the Balantas etc? Very few of us
.Tolerance and mutual respect is part of the key to bring us closer together. May
Allah make us united ever?
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Bailo, I'm inspired by you. A good man. I was thinking along these same
lines. I am pleased to be here with you.
Haruna.
In a message dated 12/28/2007 3:35:48 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Dear Suntou,
It's think that Colonel Sam Sarr's piece on tribal politics in the Gambia
manifested that he had some personal beef with the late Drs Saho and Manneh
respectively, among others. Sam's attempts to discredit the said departed
gentlemen only exposed the pettiness in him. Otherwise, why should a
so-called
gentleman that sam is reputed to be question or speculate on the
authenticity of
the academic credentials of a person who will not be able to defend himself.
Islam forbids Moslems to speak ill of the living or dead except that which
is
true. It seems to me that he has triggered discussion on this important yet
potentially divisive theme from a wrong footing.
Bailo
Suntou Touray wrote:
have a read and carefully analyse the man.he has some thing to say.may be
my understanding is a bit low but what is sam trying to tell the Gambian
public
on the internet ? he is free from tribalism and his family are also free
from it
but the late Dr saho is not,Dr manneh is not,sm dibba is not,dk jawara is
not
etc.he also wish to tell us that the doctorate degree of both manneh and
saho are dubious .may be some of you can make more sense out sarr
here.since he so educated ,he wouldn't wish to deal with me.
please read his article carefully ,you may be affected by his comments ,i
mean
your parent's name may have been mention but let us be open minded about
this and get some fruit from the topic.
i am disappointed in that sam at some point make the topic about himself and
his experiences not bad but in a national debate ,we shouldn't become the
subject matter.
http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/ar
ticleId/972/Default.aspx
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
---------------------------------
Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox.
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes
(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes
(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
|