Good point, Jim. I forgot about that one.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Johnson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:22
Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!
> one thing you can try first is the press control plus on the number pad to
> make that window wider.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!
>
>
>> Howard,
>>
>> I don't think the file list is being truncated by Jaws, but even if it
>> is,
>> you can get around it by pressing Alt plus one of the numbers 1 through
>> 7.
>> Each of these numbers will read one of the items in the details (date
>> modified, file size, file type, etc.). Even when the information isn't
>> visible, these functions will read the items correctly. I'm sure this is
>> covered somewhere in JFW's Help system, but I don't know where, and
>> didn't
>> learn it from there anyway. A friend of mine told me about all this just
>> a
>> few weeks ago, and I've been using it to good advantage since. You can
>> also
>> customize the details list in Windows itself, and part of that
>> customization
>> is the ability to increase the size of the columns. It's a pain to do,
>> and
>> involves locking the left mouse button and dragging the column headers
>> right
>> or left, but it can be done if you have the patience. Of course, it's
>> much
>> easier to do if you can get sighted assistance, which I realize is often
>> not
>> easy or even possible. I'm totally blind, and I've done it, but I'd
>> really
>> rather not, which is why I like the functions I've described above.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:43
>> Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!
>>
>>
>>> Yes it shows off scripting nicely. the window-eyes title bar reads
>>> the information manually, and I don't know why it can'b be triggered
>>> automatically, but I sure haven't been able to do it, and I figure
>>> their are minds much better than nmine who would have done it if it
>>> was easy. I don't want and have tried not to be catigorized as a
>>> freedom jfw basher, just because it is big. I have tried to advocate
>>> for choice and to express valid concerns about jfw and freedom
>>> scientiffic's draw bbacks. No company or product is perfect. The
>>> issue here is that their are a number of choices. People aught to be
>>> able to make enformed choices about the options, especially when the
>>> money on the table is their own money.
>>> Most all of what we do is windows, and not screen reader spaciffic
>>> after all. A competant computer user who needs one screen reader for
>>> work, but has learned on another, should be able to make the transition.
>>> It's not exactly like going from unix to windows. People make the
>>> chasum that wide. but windows hot keys are in windows, not in any
>>> screen reader. I hear that jfw takes over a few of them, but their
>>> is still a bypass key if necessary, and I think most of that is in
>>> name, not in function.
>>> I use window-eyes when I can, and jfw when I have to.
>>> I wonder, what do you have to do to get jfw to read a file list with
>>> your chosen details properly. Their way of trunkating names makes
>>> many operations very difficult. I assume their is a work around
>>> which I wish they would put in their default set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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