Yea, OK, you know far more than I do. Just thought maybe it was best left
unsaid . . ..
Goodnight now.
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Carol - Reading, UK
To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
In You I trust, o my God. . . .." PS25:1-2 NIV.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: Darrel Scott's testimony
> Carol,
>
> What I do know is that he did financially, and politically, and popularly,
> take advantage of a tragedy at the time. I said there was nothing to
> forgive as far as I was concerned and even agreed with all Darrell said in
> the article that was written. I can't do much more than that but I felt
> it
> necessary, when this came out years ago, to also let people know the
> truth.
> Besides, it makes no difference if I forgive him or not. God's
> forgiveness
> is all that counts. I do know, as I stated in my article, that he was not
> providing for his wife and five children he ran off and left and his own
> father and mother moved to Denver to assist her because their son
> wouldn't.
> His daughter, as I recall, was the first person shot as she walked out of
> the building. He did, by the way, write a book and his former wife's name
> appeared as a co-author.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Darrel Scott's testimony
>
>
>> Phil,
>>
>> What a history lesson! Of course, knowing nothing, I'd taken this
> testimony
>> at face value and applauded what I read!
>>
>> Now, why shouldn't anyone be forgiven their past unsupport of their
> family,
>> if they've truly repent4ed? No, you don't know but, because you don't
> know
>> it's probably best if you hadn't mentioned all this! <Smile>
>>
>> Perhaps it's time I went back to bed and tried again to get some sleep!
>>
>> --
>> Carol - Reading, UK
>>
>> To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
>> In You I trust, o my God. . . .." PS25:1-2 NIV.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Darrel Scott's testimony
>>
>>
>> >I did not comment on the speech given before congress by Darrell
>> > Scott when it was first posted to blind-x because I was way behind
>> > on reading my mail. Now that I have a few minutes, I wanted to
>> > say something about it even if it gets me into trouble. This same
>> > speech by Darrell Scott has come to me more than once over the
>> > passed years. It was recently posted on the electronic church
>> > mailing list I have and I didn't comment publicly about it there
>> > but probably should have. In fact, I will post on echurch-l what
>> > I am about to say on this list because I think it needs to be
>> > said. Anyhow, here are my comments.
>> >
>> > Let me begin by saying that I have read Darrell Scott's speech
>> > before and that I agree with everything he says. I personally
>> > know Darrell Scott and his family and I am always a little
>> > uncomfortable every time I see Darrell speaking on these issues.
>> > Let me explain why. Darrell Scott was pastoring a church near my
>> > home. I joined Darrell's church and soon became involved in his
>> > ministry. About the time I joined his church, he had become
>> > discontented in the pastoral ministry and in a few months, he
>> > literally turned his church over to me to take his place. He had
>> > gotten involved in a multi level organization and was making more
>> > money than the church had ever been able to pay him. After he
>> > turned his ministry over to me, he left the church and never
>> > returned. We then found out that he had been using the church for
>> > part of his business operations. That is not, of course, illegal
>> > but I considered it unethical. We also found out that he had been
>> > paying his own salary each week and ignoring the church bills.
>> > This included the rent which was 2500 dollars a month. When I
>> > took over the church, I found out that we were at least two months
>> > behind in all the church bills. This came to about 6,000 dollars
>> > that we were behind. It took us several months to get caught up
>> > and I went without a salary all that time. the church also had a
>> > number of people who were leaving because Darrell refused to work
>> > with others in the church wanting to assist in different church
>> > ministries. The church had no board of elders or deacons of any
>> > type. Darrell always said he never believed in such
>> > accountability in the operation of a church. By the time he left,
>> > we probably didn't have but 50 or 60 people left and it once had
>> > been nearly 150 people. At least that was what Darrell always
>> > told me but I personally never saw more than 75 or 80 people
>> > there. About half the people who remained, quickly left when
>> > Darrell stopped pastoring the church. So not only was I stuck
>> > with several thousand dollars worth of church debt, but I had a
>> > fraction of the people left in the church by the time Darrell
>> > left. By the way, Darrell, at that time, was one of the best
>> > Bible teachers I ever heard. He was a great musician and our
>> > worship services were fantastic. His wife played the piano,
>> > Darrell sang, and at that time, one of his sisters was a part of
>> > our music team. Since Darrell was doing a lot of traveling with
>> > his new business, I took his place on Sundays most of the time.
>> > The men of the church finally called a meeting and asked Darrell
>> > to either pastor the church or turn it over to someone. After a
>> > lot of discussion, Darrell turned the church over to me in front
>> > of all the men at that meeting that night. Of course, half the
>> > men there didn't believe I should have been the man taking
>> > Darrell's place so many of them never returned to any of our
>> > services. Darrell never came back to any services again. A few
>> > weeks after he left the church, we learned that Darrell was having
>> > an affair with the church secretary. She, by the way, had left
>> > the church when he did because she was working with him in his
>> > multi level business and traveling with him as they did
>> > presentations. Darrell left his wife and children for this woman
>> > and this woman left her husband and children for Darrell. I never
>> > heard if they actually got married or not. Frankly, I cannot say
>> > if they were having their affair during the time he was pastoring
>> > the church or not but I can tell you some people believed they
>> > were. I was visiting a church a couple of years ago where some of
>> > Darrell's relatives were members. He was back in a church at that
>> > time and was dating a woman. I have not recently heard if he
>> > married or not. I do not know if Darrell was supporting his
>> > former wife and children when he left them but I know for awhile
>> > he must not have been because his own father and mother moved to
>> > Denver from Louisiana to help her with the children while she went
>> > out and got a job to support her own children. His father had
>> > been a pastor and since he was retired, he and his wife moved to
>> > Denver to help Beth, Darrell's wife, raise the children while she
>> > went out and got a job. Doesn't sound like a father supporting
>> > his family to me but then I didn't go around asking any
>> > questions; I was too busy trying to clean up the mess Darrell left
>> > at his church. I was told much of this information by personal
>> > friend's of Darrell's at the time and as I said, I did not go
>> > around trying to find out all that was going on in his life
>> > because I was too busy doing the ministry work. I have not
>> > bothered calling friends that know Darrell nor have I bothered
>> > calling any of his relatives here in Denver to find out how
>> > Darrell is doing now. Frankly, I don't want to know any more than
>> > I do right now. I have no reason to believe that Darrell is
>> > anything other than what he appears to be based upon the speech he
>> > gave. I have seen him on TV shows and heard him on radio talks
>> > shows several times since his daughter was shot and killed at
>> > Columbine High School. I have never heard anything he said with
>> > which I disagreed. I just feel uncomfortable listening to him
>> > when I know things in his background and how he left his wife and
>> > five children, and his ministry, and how he screwed up his life
>> > ten years ago. I hope Darrell started supporting his former wife
>> > and his children long before Columbine but I personally do not
>> > know his relationship with his children to date. I know his wife
>> > has remarried and seems to be very happy. I know that she and her
>> > husband are faithful at the church they attend. I have the funny
>> > feeling that one day we are going to hear Darrell is running for
>> > public office or that he is publishing a book. Though I always
>> > liked Darrell and he was always good to me as a friend, I have
>> > trouble reading his speech and seeing him on television and
>> > hearing him on radio talk shows because of what he did ten years
>> > ago to his family and his church. I know some are probably saying
>> > about now, well, that was ten years ago. Can't you forgive him?
>> > There's nothing to forgive because I never had anything against
>> > him and supported him, and his ministry, in every way I knew how.
>> > I never spoke against him after he left the church and if anyone
>> > in the church tried speaking against him to me, I didn't allow
>> > them to continue. I feel very uncomfortable hearing him talk
>> > about his daughter when I know there was a time he did nothing to
>> > support his family. At least, if he did, he sure put his wife and
>> > children through a terrible time back in the early nineties. I
>> > wish him well and I have nothing to hold against him but his
>> > popularity over the last year because of his public appearances
>> > personally bothers me because he seems to come across so pro
>> > family now and yet he abandon his own family ten years ago for
>> > money and sex. At least that's what it appeared to be at the
>> > time. If, by this time, you are getting the picture that I don't
>> > cut ministers much slack when they abandon their families and
>> > screw up their church and people's lives, you are right. I'm not
>> > saying they cannot change and I am not saying they cannot be
>> > forgiven for what they've done. I do not think, however, when
>> > they become self appointed spoke persons for a certain cause, that
>> > their passed should be overlooked. Anyhow, I thought some of you
>> > would like to know this. If you don't care to know it, forget
>> > what I said.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>>
>>
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