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Malcolm Blake <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi, Phil,

Thank you for this email.

Please, will you send me the book you wrote on tithing? as I am not very 
good on websites yet.

I enjoyed what you said on or about praying. have you wrote any books on 
praying?

Love,
Malcolm.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Joyce Myers


> After church today, I happened to be out in my office so I turned on the
> radio.  Since my short wave radio has 32 memory buttons, I run through 
> lots
> of local stations just to see what's going on.  Being Sunday and all, and
> being as religious as I am, of course, I check the Christian stations 
> first.
> The first station was playing one of Joyce Myers recent messages.  Now, 
> lest
> you jump my case big time and call me every name in the book, I have fond
> feelings for Joyce.  She practically saved my life many years ago and long
> before she became famous.  I have listened to her on the radio hundreds 
> and
> hundreds of times and I have at least 100 of her tapes, too.  So don't go
> whanging on me for being a critic, which I am, but you know what I mean.
> Unless you missed it, Joyce has an ego problem.  Bless God, He uses her 
> any
> way.  I have decided, recently, that remaining silent, on the other hand,
> when things need to be addressed, is wrong.  I'm not going to do it any
> longer, and yes, I have held back many times just so I wouldn't offend
> somebody or just in case I might hurt somebody's feelings.  That's not 
> what
> I am trying to do.  Back to the radio problem and the error in teaching I
> heard today.  This week, I have heard two other radio preachers 
> emphatically
> state, as they taught on finances and how to be financially blessed as a
> Christian, that you first, and foremost, have to tithe.  I won't explain 
> how
> wrong this is because I have written a book on this topic, which is on my
> website.  I have lived over 25 years of my life without tithing, due to 
> the
> fact the Holy Spirit revealed to me the biblical truth, and this after 
> many
> hours of on my knees praying and after studying the Scriptures until I
> thought my scull would crack, before coming to a life time decision to
> follow the Word rather than the preaching on the topic I had heard my 
> entire
> life.  I only got in on the last five minutes of Joyce's teaching today 
> but
> I already know what she believes about tithing so I'm not referring to 
> that
> part of her belief system.  Today, she was referring to old trusty stand 
> by
> financial principles that you can get from any financial counselor.  Yes,
> you can find most, if not all, of these same principles in the Bible. 
> Where
> do you think these secular financial experts got their principles in the
> first place.  Oh, they won't admit to any such thing but they can 
> plagiarize
> the bible all they want.  It isn't copyrighted, you know.  Anyhow, Joyce 
> was
> just listing many financial principles such as, stop spending beyond your
> means, dah, and things that a sixth grader would already know.  I heard
> nothing about miracles, the power of god to bless, and other bible
> references to lift the spirit but perhaps in the rest of the serious she 
> has
> done so.  When she said to immediately stop spending, she said, Except for
> my tapes, of course.  Everybody laughed because it was funny.  Joyce 
> laughed
> herself.  However, she then continued, when the laughter died down, to
> embellish this very idea by making it clear that you would not be in this
> horrible financial condition now, if you had been spending your money on
> good teaching tapes, such as her's, instead of buying worldly things such 
> as
> lipstick and earrings.  That left me out right off the bat.  Regardless,
> yes, I clearly understand what she was trying to say so don't get your 
> tail
> in a knot.  Regardless, what she is trying to say is only half truth.  Let
> me put it this way.  All you need is Jesus, your Bible, and knees.  You
> know, the ones you use when kneeling when you pray?  By the way, you don't
> need to kneel when you pray.  A chair, or as I often do so I won't fall
> asleep, is walking around my office.  It would be wise if you knew how to
> pray but if you don't, just handle it the same way when you first fell in
> love with your mate.  By that I mean, talk to God.  He likes that, by the
> way, and you'll learn more correct theological application of Scripture by
> prayer than if you buy all of Joyce Myers tapes or mine or anybody else's.
> Here is another secret.  When you pray, you do not need to say a word. 
> Just
> remain silent and wait.  You will be totally amazed at what happens.  At
> first, though, you are going to want to talk God's leg off.  That's ok. 
> He
> doesn't mind.  When you run out of words, however, is when you can remain
> silent.  Yes, as if you are listening.  That's how you hear from God.  You
> listen.  Most of us have never learned how to listen so we never hear God
> when He speaks.  More criticism later.
>
> Phil.
>
> 

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