Phil,
It breaks my heart to hear this news!  Know that I am praying for all of you 
and that the Lord will find a solution for Gretchen!  We know He will but 
she has to be willing and ready to change!  Hang in there and know that we 
are here for you and Sandy as well as for Gretchen.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Latest On Gretchen


> Nothing new and nothing different.  Up and down, yoyo effect.  There's a
> good book title.  Yoyo Effect.  Gretchen has broken up with her unsaved
> boyfriends several times and then gotten back together with her.  They are
> back together at the moment.  She announced this week that she is going to
> another church, taking her boyfriend, and joining of young peoples couples
> group.  Yippee.  My friend Keith took them out to eat and to talk a couple
> of three weeks ago.  Gretchen says she thought she had led Mike to the 
> Lord.
> Keith showed Gretchen that he wasn't born again.  Mike has been getting 
> high
> again lately, too.  I say, too, because we have learned Gretchen got 
> stoned
> on drugs a couple of weeks ago and had a dirty UA the next day.  Not good.
> Especially not good for her children.  Her case officer is due back in the
> office soon and when she finds out, she will make the decision what to do
> with Gretchen.  Gretchen is current on a zero tolerance level, which 
> means,
> she can't have one bad UA.  Well, she lied to her former husband, he has 
> the
> right to call and ask what is going on with Gretchen due to the status of
> their children and visitation rights, and she told him she had told Sandy
> and me.  Oops.  She didn't think he would tell us.  He did.  Nothing like
> living a lie.  Gretchen began lying when she was 4 years old and has never
> stopped.  She doesn't think there is anything wrong with lying.
>
> Phil.
>
> He's ready when you are.
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com