but the wording of that site fraudulently claims to be "ham radio" skype 
doesn't do that, echolink has an RF side of it, and actually, I pulled the 
link down, no other internet chat room fraudulently claims to be ham radio 
like that and anyone who'd support an operation like that, should be highly 
ashamed of themselves and lose their license.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Taking the radio out of ham radio


> John:
> does that mean that anyone who uses skype, or any voice chat program and
> holds an amateur radio license should have their license revoked simply
> because they dared to use a format other then RF transmision to send their
> message or to communicate?
> You yourself use echolink and even support a node on echolink.  What major
> difference is there between this setup and echolink other then there are 
> no
> actual RF transmitting devices involved?
> Its a way to get hams together, just as it happens on the air, but using
> computers.
> People probably thought SSB was going to ruin ham radio too back in the
> 50's, and FM as well, and look at how things work now.
> I think a close minded attitude towards these kinds of things is
> anti-progressive and shows a lack of desire to move ahead or even to try 
> new
> ideas related to both amateur radio, and amateurs themselves.
> Remember, its not always about the radio, its about the people behind the
> radio and their interests and ideas and desires.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Taking the radio out of ham radio
>
>
>> but this idiot that invented this doesn't have any RF involved at all so
>> it's not radio in the least and anyone who thinks it is needs to look at
>> what radio is. Personally, I think anyone who would sign up or anything
> with
>> them should lose their license but that's JMO.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Moore" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: Taking the radio out of ham radio
>>
>>
>> > Buddy,
>> > Since you signed up for the 90 day free trial, give us a report on how
>> > it work and whether the transceiver software is accessible.  They said
>> > there were some shortcut keys to help the visually impaired.
>> >
>> > The one nice thing about this product is you don't need to mess around
>> > with your router ports as you do with echolink.  you can also make 
>> > qso's
>> > with cw.
>> >
>> > I think the purists might argue that anything that use voip is NOT ham
>> > radio.
>> >
>> > 73 Chris w1gm
>> >
>