John,
Yeah, they don't seem to be very responsive. Let's hope they figure
out a few things before they release Version 8. There are lots of
things I like about JAWS, but speaking as a programmer, I'd say it's
time for FS to rewrite the basic screen reader engine from the ground
up. Scripting is great, but they're relying far too much on
scripting to solve major problems. I'll bet if we could see the
source code, we'd find all sorts of stuff that nobody knows how it
works, and nobody dares to touch it because they're afraid of what
might break if they did. Incidentally, this is a very common problem
in all software that has been around for several years. It
eventually evolves to the point where you have to start over just to
get it to work right.
Steve
On Tuesday 10/31/06 11:57 John Miller wrote:
>I've complained about all that and actually talked to some one in the
>escalations department and development team who couldn't figure it out, was
>going to talk to his boss and get back to me, but you know how that came
>out, I never heard back but left a couple messages with a few things I found
>that might help.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:49 AM
>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > I haven't seen the problems with Outlook Express, or Yahoo Messenger,
> > but I don't use either of those programs. I have seen the tab
> > problems in I.E., and I suspect they happen because JAWS is having
> > difficulty determining where it is on the screen, and so it loses
> > focus. This problem was reported to FS by a friend of mine back in
> > July, and he never received any response from them. Maybe we should
> > all report our problems to FS and hope that they pay attention to
> > numbers. It's at least as useful as complaining to each other on this
> > list.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Tuesday 10/31/06 11:29 John Miller wrote:
> >>Well, my favorite problem is when ever I close outlook express, jaws 7.1
> >>goes bye bye, if I'm using a SAPI5 voice it doesn't do it but anything
> >>else
> >>I have does every time, I seem to have stability problems with IE, the tab
> >>button doesn't track with the arrow keys on web pates like it always has,
> >>using the tab key seems very sluggish too. It wasn't working in yahoo
> >>messenger hardly at all but I fixed that I think, there was more but I
> >>don't remember it anymore. The outlook express issue was the biggest for
> >>me
> >>though, especially where a lot of people were having it before the July
> >>update and some still are. I can't have that, I exit out of outlook
> >>express
> >>when I leave the house but like to leave the computer on from when I wake
> >>up
> >>to when I go to bed if not round the clock some days.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:04 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
> >>
> >>
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > You may have already told us and I missed it, but what problems have
> >> > you run into with 7.1? I know there are some, particularly with
> >> > Internet Explorer, and I'm sure there are some which I haven't
> >> > seen. Lou makes a good point when he says none of the screen readers
> >> > are perfect, and you have to decide what you can or cannot live
> >> > with. He's also right when he says that everyone configures Windows
> >> > to suit their own preferences, and that no two configurations are the
> >> > same.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> > On Monday 10/30/06 23:00 John Miller wrote:
> >> >>I've never had that problem with word XP, I just recently upgraded to
> >> >>2003,
> >> >>haven't seen it so far but I haven't used it all that much yet.
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:41 PM
> >> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Lou:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Come to think of it, I have had the problem you mention here with
> >> >> > Jaws
> >> >> > 7.0
> >> >> > when navigating Word documents.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can't get it to happen consistently under a given set of
> >> >> > conditions,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > it does happen.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyone come up with a cure for this?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >> >> > .
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:40 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi John.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I ran into some problems on two machines where a user would be
> >> >> >> trying
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> edit a MS Word document and would be just arrowing around the
> >> >> >> document
> >> >> > when
> >> >> >> the cursor would abruptly move to the top of the document. I was
> >> >> >> able
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> observe this repeatedly on the two machines in question, and they
> >> >> >> were
> >> >> > both
> >> >> >> running JAWS 7.0. Upgrading the machines to JAWS 7.10 cured the
> >> >> >> problem
> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> both machines, and that is primarily what keeps me from being a big
> >> >> >> fan
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> > 7.0.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >
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