Here is an example of what Phil was talking
about, regarding people straying from the gospel
and getting involved in side issues.
Text of forwarded message follows:
>Saturday, December 2, 2006
>After reading this headline, please do NOT refer
>to me as an Evangelical? I "evangelize," but
>I'm certainly absent from this camp!
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>Evangelicals embrace Obama
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>After earlier criticisms, his speech at an AIDS
>conference organized by Rick Warren's Saddleback
>Church receives a standing ovation.
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>By MARTIN WISCKOL
>The Orange County Register
>http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1371722.php
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>LAKE FOREST – Barack Obama got torched by
>Christian critics earlier in the week, but he
>received a hearty standing ovation after
>addressing hundreds of evangelicals in person at Saddleback Church on Friday.
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>The charismatic Illinois senator and possible
>2008 Democratic presidential candidate was on
>hand for the church's Global Summit on AIDS and
>the Church, which coincided with World AIDS Day.
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>"We are all sick because of AIDS," Obama said.
>"We are all being challenged by this crisis. It
>is a challenge not only of our willingness to
>respond, but of our ability to look past
>artificial divisions and debates that have shaped our response all too often."
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>Obama's support of abortion rights led numerous
>evangelicals to lash out when it was announced
>he would be speaking, along with Sen. Sam
>Brownback, R-Kan., at a Friday session entitled "We Must Work Together."
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>Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy
>Council, called Obama's views "the antithesis of
>biblical ethics and morality, not to mention supreme American values."
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>Taking heat for inviting Obama was Saddleback
>Pastor Rick Warren, author of the popular "The Purpose-Driven Life."
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>Warren – and Brownback – eagerly explained their
>support of Obama at the event. Warren said
>differences on some issues shouldn't prevent
>them from working together on the problem of AIDS.
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>"I've got two friends here – a Republican and a
>Democrat," Warren said. "Why? You've got to have
>two wings to fly. … It's time for the church to
>be known for what it's for, not what it's against."
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>He went on to say Obama and Brownback were two
>members of Congress he most respected. "You may
>not always agree with what they say, but they
>always speak with integrity – and more than that, civility," Warren said.
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>Warren, Brownback and Obama all spoke of AIDS as
>a pandemic that is one of the world's most
>daunting problems, particularly in Africa, where
>there are an estimated 12 million AIDS orphans.
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>Bringing the church and more Christians into the
>equation is seen by the three as a key to
>getting the upper hand on the problem. Obama
>also emphasized the need for Congress to do more
>in terms of analyzing the problem and increasing funding abroad.
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>Obama spoke extensively about the debate of abstinence vs. condoms.
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>"I don't think we can deny that there is a moral
>and spiritual component to prevention," Obama
>said. During recent travels through Africa, he
>said, "again and again I heard stories of men
>and women contracting HIV because sex was no
>longer part of a sacred covenant, but a mechanical physical act."
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>"Having said that, I also believe that we cannot
>ignore that abstinence and fidelity may too
>often be the ideal and not the reality. If
>condoms and potentially microbicides can prevent
>millions of deaths, they should be made more widely available."
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>The standing ovation given Obama was longer and
>louder than that received by either Warren or
>Brownback. The message clearly resonated.
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>"If I had my preference, abstinence would get
>the most emphasis," said Linda Smith, a retired
>teacher and a member of the church on hand for
>the event. "But I'm not so insensitive to other
>cultures and other ways of thinking to know that
>abstinence is not always going to be the answer."
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>Gordon Raley, who coordinates efforts with
>churches for Arlington, Va.-based Family Health
>International, said criticism of Obama revealed
>a shortcoming that sometimes occurs among Christians.
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>"Even within the church, sometimes we put politics before God," he said.
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>At the outset of a news conference following the
>speaking event, Obama, Brownback and Warren each
>took an HIV test to demonstrate how simple it
>was and to encourage others to follow suit.
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>Obama expressed relief that unlike an HIV test
>he took in Africa earlier this year – in which
>blood was drawn – this one was performed with a
>swab-type device that extracted a mucus sample from inside the mouth.
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>Obama and Brownback were asked during the news
>conference about their possible candidacies for
>president in 2008. Both responded that they
>would not talk about it because they didn't want
>to distract from the focus of the event. By the
>end of the 20-minute news conference, results
>from the HIV tests were available. All were negative.
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