i remember this now. it appears that mr. fox was
indeed by his own admission not as normal. mr. fox
says he was had over medicated hisself.
i read the transcrip of limbaugh's remarks. he said
he'd never saw fox like this and read from foxes book
where fox admited to not taking his meds to show the
effects. limbaugh said he understood that. he did
speculated that maybe fox was off his meds and said if
he found out differently he'd appolgize. when he heard
fox admit to over medicating hisself, limbaugh did
issue an appology. something not widely reported.
fox admited on a morning news program that he had not
even read the admendment in misouri.
i think it misrepresents the facts to the point of
attacking limbaugh for criticising fox.
i might point out that what happened here was exactly
what all of us disabled people say we want. to be
treated like everyone else. if someone else, say sean
penn, susan seranden, barbara striesein or any other
well known celeb steps in to the political areana they
are opened top what they say being critisized. But the
democrats have made quite a habit of parading victims
out and then when the victim gets something said
against them, it is "how dare you" . well now with
this episode he got treaed like everybody else. like
it or not, we can't have it both ways. either we want
to be treated equal or we don't.
--- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Tell us what's in error or is a deliberate
> misrepresentation, then, Ken
>
> Kendall
>
> On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > be a good article if it were true.
> >
> > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Another interesting POV on the Michael J. Fox -
> Rush
> > > Limbaugh brouhaha
> > > (I've always wanted to use that word!) ;-{)}
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usads264948265oct26,0,6443351.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines
> > >
> > > Kendall
> > >
> > > On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > thanks for the articles. there are those that
> > > state
> > > > just the oposite. i do not know which
> scienctist
> > > are
> > > > right.
> > > >
> > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Article on use of embryonic stem cell use in
> > > > > Parkinsons
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/2344
> > > > >
> > > > > Another article:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://ask.lub.lu.se/archive/00016097/01/nm1064.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > states that there is little evidence that
> other
> > > > > types of stem cells
> > > > > work as well as embryonic cells:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Neurons with dopaminergic phenotype
> surviving
> > > > > transplantation have
> > > > > been generated in culture from mouse and
> monkey
> > > > > embryonic stem cells
> > > > > (ESCs) and from neural stem cells (NSC's)
> > > derived
> > > > > from the fetal
> > > > > rodent and human brain. There is little
> > > evidence
> > > > > that dopaminergic
> > > > > neurons can be made from NSCs in adult brain
> or
> > > from
> > > > > stem cells in
> > > > > other tissues."
> > > > >
> > > > > (Page 2 of the PDF, near the bottom of the
> left
> > > > > column.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Kendall
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/27/06, Joshua Snyder
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > A while back, I remember a scientist
> stating
> > > that
> > > > > such
> > > > > > problems were likely with embryonic stem
> > > cells,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > not with adult (cord blood) stem cells.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two years ago, Miss Hwang Mi-soon was made
> to
> > > walk
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the first time after 19 years with adut
> stem
> > > cell
> > > > > > therapy:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200412/kt2004120317543511780.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The story was buried:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi58.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have to ask, why the huge push (and
> > > funding)
> > > > > for
> > > > > > embryonic stem cell research from the same
> > > folks
> > > > > who
> > > > > > want an abortuary in every neighborhood?
> Why
> > > the
> > > > > > elaborate ruse to divert us away from cord
> > > blood
> > > > > stem
> > > > > > cells?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken and Kat,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also wonder what would have happened
> had
> > > the
> > > > > study
> > > > > > > used rat stem
> > > > > > > cells rather than human stem cell
> implanted
> > > in
> > > > > rats.
> > > > > > > A woman I worked
> > > > > > > with had a kidney transplant several
> years
> > > back,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > later developed a
> > > > > > > tumor in that kidney and ureter. I'm
> not
> > > saying
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > sure it was some
> > > > > > > form of auto immune response, but I'd
> think
> > > the
> > > > > > > likelihood of an
> > > > > > > autoimmune elated cancer developing
> would be
> > > > > higher
> > > > > > > when cros-species
> > > > > > > transplantation is performed. I'm not
> > > > > advocating
> > > > > > > doing experimental
> > > > > > > research on humans, but a check to see
> if
> > > tumors
> > > > > > > develop in rats with
> > > > > > > Parkinson's who are given rat stem cells
> > > would
> > > > > seem
> > > > > > > logical.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/27/06, Kathleen Salkin
> > > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > The study was truly inconclusive as
> they
> > > > > killed
> > > > > > > the test animals
> > > > > > > > before any tumors formed. So we
> don't
> > > know
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > the tumors would have
> > > > > > > > been benign or malignant, or even if
> they
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > have formed. Also,
> > > > > > > > would this have been the result of
> > > short-term
> > > > > > > treatment or long-
> > > > > > > > term? Too many questions to be really
> > > > > conclusive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:37, Kendall D.
> > > Corbett
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
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