Frankly,  Richard,  I know of no verticals that will perform well if they 
aren't ground-mounted or don't have radials.  I thought the SteppIr could be 
operated without radials.

Don't know what your situation is there.  Even running a couple wires to a 
fense would help.  Or, what about a small rotor on the roof with a small 
beam using a loading coil to work 40?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: antenna info


> Hi Everyone;
> Since I have the winter to investigate I've been looking at hf verticals.
> I'd like something that at least covers 40 through 10 meters and 80 meters
> would be a nice extra.
> I have used two r8 by cushcraft which have come down so we can cross that
> one off my list.  After reading reviews I have temporarily eliminated the
> dx77.  Since I would prefer something that I can roof mount and don't have
> to add radials that seems to eliminate butternut, step-ir and others.  I'm
> far from an antenna expert and I wonder what else is out there that I 
> don't
> know about.  I have looked at the dx88 but it apparently is best ground
> mounted with radials.
> Any words of wisdom will be appreciated.
> Richard
>