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this may all be true, but, they did not have
constitutional rights as POWS. this is just testifying
to the fact that the American government treated them
good. 

  hey guys does the words "Achille Lauro" and the name
"Leon Klinghoffer" ring a bell? this American PWD was
on this cruise ship and terroris shot him in his
wheelcchair and threw him overboard. i bring this up
to tell you all that that bunch of peace loving
individuals held at Gitmo would saw any of your heads
off and put a vidio of it on the internet if they
could and it met their purposes. And you want to
confer constitutional rights on them. is there any
anity on the left? 

there has been three elections in iraq with better
turnout that happens here and a government has been
formed. to say there is no progress is to conveniantly
forget some of the facts. it is slow, but would not
have been as slow had the left not let their absolute
hatred for bush caused by him winning the election in
2000 get to the point that it overwhelmed caring what
happened to our country. the lack of a simulance of
untity has certainly encourged the terrorist. 

   the uptick in violence right now is nothing more
than "early voting" by the terrorist. and they are
voting for a change in the U.S. government. it is
AL-Quita's part in the election campagn. these people
may be barbaric, but they are not stupid and they pick
up CNN as well as we do. they actually repeat the
talking points in their tapes. they hear our "leaders"
comparing our troops to nazis, and our pow camps as
gulogs, and all the other stuff spewed out by merth,
kennedy, durban, clinton, et al. it does not help the
troops. 





--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Ken
> 
> I've read a few books on German POW's in America and
> in Utah they let 
> them out of camp to work in hospitals or on farms
> and these were SS. 
> They made many friends in Utah who later helped them
> come to the US. 
> During this time our government gave history lessons
> to these POW's 
> to help them learn about democracy. In Utah the
> citizens welcomed 
> them and no wonder it's the reddest state of all.
> The German SS 
> influenced public policy in Utah as many citizens
> got their blood 
> type tattooed under their left arm the same as the
> SS had done. Lots 
> of all together strange things happened.
> 
> At 10:23 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
> >not to forget all the history you left out abe
> lincoln
> >suspending it for the whole time of the southern
> war
> >for independance.
> >
> >now, can you name an instance in which bush has
> >suspended it for an american citizen? i dare say
> your
> >ansering email on this question will be rather
> short.
> >you may decorate it with many other things but the
> >answer to this question will be short.
> >
> >and since we are having history lessons, heres some
> >more, at no time in our history has POW'S (and i do
> >not even know if these qualify as POW'S) had
> >constitutional rights. not a one of the 400,000
> german
> >prisoners in the u.s. had hebius corpus, hell, no
> >tiime in history have they had the rights that this
> >group have been afforded.
> >
> >america valuing all people or not has not a thing
> to
> >do with the war on terror, but, i'll dare say this,
> >all of us with disabilities are better off in
> america
> >that we would be in any middle eastern country
> except
> >Isreal, and better off than we'd be in most of the
> >world. maybe a few places in europe could be
> better,
> >maybe not.
> >how'd you like to be a PWD in Iran? Hey Rayna, tell
> >mike how good you got it in PERTH. I'LL TAKE IT
> HERE
> >IN AMERICA. Thank you.
> >
> >
> >--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > Tell that to the German American of WW I, or the
> > > Japanese American of WW II.  I'm not talking
> about
> > > foreign terrorists, I'm talking about American
> > > Citizens whose only fault is they were descended
> > > from arabian people.  Don't say it can't happen.
> > > Just like don't say Amerrica values all people. 
> If
> > > it did, I would have a job now. instead of
> > > subsisting on SS.  I'm pretty well fed up with
> the
> > > conservative mantra, and liberal malarky both...
>  I
> > > say if you are ooncerned for me before I am
> born, be
> > > as concerned for me after.  Thanks to
> conservatives,
> > > Medicare is making it impossible for people like
> me
> > > to get meaningful mobility products which
> enhances
> > > life.   I know the constitution preamble, and I
> know
> > > what the founding fathers meant when they wrote
> it.
> > > That's why they needed the amendment to give
> blacks
> > > and womem the right to vote. Both were highly
> > > progressive causes in their day.  Tell me one
> thing,
> > > Ken.  Can you tell me any really good and
> lasting
> > > thing Conservatives have done in!
> > >  this country?  I don't mean along party
> lines...
> > >
> > > ---- Original message ----
> > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:40:55 -0700
> > > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Subject: Re: what happens if we leave iraq too
> > > quickly
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > And oh, btw,
> > > >> Habeus Corpus is now a thing of the past. 
> We'll
> > > all
> > > >> need to mind our P's and Q's now!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >do you support giving constitutional rights to
> > > >non-citizen terrorist mike? did you ever even
> learn
> > > >the preamble. it starts out "We the people of
> the
> > > >UNITED STATES..." Do you think the mastermind
> of
> > > the
> > > >9-11 attack deserves to have constitutional
> rights
> > > >confered on him?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >habeou corpus is a constitutional right to U.S.
> > > >Citizens.
> > > >
> > >
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