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Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]>
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The listserv that Ruth calls "Pluto's spider-hole."
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Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:55:11 -0200
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John,

Jim Houston is a PTN member. So is Mr. Davidson.
Good that you feel cranky. If you can figure how to make it worth the 
while of trades to go to an APT conference I'm for it.
As the APT-PTN liaison I go to the APT conference and hear about how 
everyone regrets the trades being absent.
And there is a lingering idea that I have something to do with that.
I step up to try to do something about the divide and on all sides I get 
stone walls. Talk is cheap and I have other stuff to do.
Bryan Robinson, chair for the Atlanta conference, is a PTN member and 
has always held out a good hand.
We spent several hours in Halifax talking through possibilities of 
interface. The weather was great and the beer cold.
This year w/ PTN being focused on the October event in Holy Cross 9th 
Ward (www.iptw.org <http://www.iptw.org/>) there was not energy to 
reciprocate w/ APT.
I have made overtures to the planners for the APT conferences in 2007 
and 2008 with suggestions of PTN involvement and to date have nada as a 
response.
I have people in PTN ready and willing, and honored to have been asked 
by me, to participate in the interface... but I have nothing to tell them.
PTN does not have a reciprocal feeling of missing APT, in fact, a whole 
lot of PTN'rs have no clue what APT is. So there is no conversation to 
speak of on the PTN side.
Mr. Davidson suggested a few free rooms and kegs of beer would do the 
trick. Possibly our former BP'r David West, now I believe on the APT BOD 
will take it a step further.
There is a decided difference in culture between the two communities. 
For one thing PTN has a band and we dance.
We also have one hell of a kool auction where everybody has a good time.
If you are there you will be incredibly welcome. If you are not there 
then hardly nobody will notice.
Life is short.

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Mr. John J. Callan AIA wrote:

> I was vaguely ashamed of my disappointment with the conference.

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