I'm at all the defaults pretty much, bliss for the desktop background,
position is stretch, theme is windows XP, display settings are 1024x768 32
bit color, windows and buttons, windows XP,scheme, default blue, normal
font, I think that's pretty much what they recommend, it's what I've used
right along. No screen saver either.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
> Hi John,
>
> Some questions I forgot to ask you.
>
> 1. If running Windows XP, have you made sure that all customizations are
> done properly for the Operating system that are recommended by Freedom
> Scientific so that JAWS runs properly? In some rare cases, if some of
> these
> settings are not optimized, weird things may happen--other than JAWS not
> reading in a particular program properly.
> 2. Which desktop theme/background are you using? ON some systems, if you
> are running Windows XP and you use the classic desktop theme with certain
> backgrounds, this causes weird issues such as program crashes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>
>
> Oh ya, I've tried it on 3 computers, and I"m not the only one, the July
> update fixed it for many, but if you look on the jfw list there are still
> a
> few with that problem. I check the archives and saw some one ask about
> that
> just last week or the week before in fact and a lot of people use Eudora
> or
> outlook so probably wouldn't even know they have the problem. I've had the
> problem since the betas, my old computer, this one, and my laptop all had
> the same problem with 7.1 and I did everything you could think of, usually
> more than once including completely stumping some one at the development
> team at FS. Anyway, I know of at least 4 or 5 others with the same problem
> and there are no even remote similarities in our computers, I was looking
> for anything that might help figure it out. My computer has a lot of toys
> in
> it but it's nothing out of the ordinary really beyond that. I work on
> computers all the time, not many have jaws on them, but point being, I've
> tried the reinstalls, the complete removal and reinstalls, running it with
> complete default settings changing every setting I could think of, and the
> SAPI 5 synth did seem to fix it but who wants to listen to that voice all
> the time, it's gotta be a bug in the program somewhere unless something
> doesn't like the way 7.1 and 8 get info from the system. 7.0 works no
> problem and 6.2 which I have still because I need it with a few programs,
> and on old computers I've never had this problem. I'll have to call again
> I
> guess and get some one who'll just ask me to do everything I've done a
> million times I guess and not come up with anything if I feel like wasting
> time to try to fix this.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Jackson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>
>
>> John,
>>
>> I certainly hate that this happens but have honestly either completely
>> forgotten or missed it. I have never heard of this problem with 7.1 and
>> also
>> run OE and have run 7.1 since the beta with no issues. Seems to me there
>> must be something particular on your end causing this behavior. If this
>> was
>> a wide spread issue you must know that those people would be on it,
>> there
>> are too many outlook express users to let something like that go un
>> addressed. How many computers have you tried it on, if you even have more
>> than one? I have 2 very different desktops and no issue on either with
>> 7.1
>> and outlook express. I assume that you have tried loading jaws with the
>> default settings before closing outlook express to see if it could be any
>> change that you are making. I'm not saying that it isn't real but of
>> course
>> there has to be a reasonable explaination since there have been thousands
>> of
>> beta testers of 7.1.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>>
>>
>> I've said it about 15 times on this list in the past, but in case you
>> missed
>> it, when I close outlook express, jaws crashes. that's only in 7.1 and
>> from
>> the best of my knowledge after trying it over and over and over again,a
>> bout
>> every other time with jaws 8.0 so it's a little bit better. Still no good
>> though since I close outlook express if I leave the house though I leave
>> the
>> computer on. I've been using 7.0 right along with no problems. I've
>> talked
>> to others with the same issue with 7.1. I will say 8 is a lot more
>> responsive where 7.1 wasn't, not great and I think I'll eventually go
>> back
>> to 7.0 which is definitely better at certain things but I'll run 8.0 for
>> tonight anyway which is a lot more than I gave 7.1 which I was sick of
>> after
>> about 45 minutes to an hour, maybe 2 hours total with all the testing and
>> experimenting and stuff I did to try to fix it.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Jackson" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>>
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> What major problem with outlook express are you talking about since you
>>> didn't specify?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I can say this, if anyone reading this had problems with 7.1,
>>> don't
>>> waste your time with this one, the same very major problem I've fought
>>> is
>>> still there with outlook express, and a couple other minor ones. I sure
>>> hope
>>> I can learn to like windoweyes because I'm not wasting my money on crap
>>> like
>>> this anymore.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: JAWS 8.0 Has Been Officially Released
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> This is only about half an hour old as I write this post. JAWS 8.0 is
>>>> now
>>>> live as they say or more to the point has been officially released.
>>>>
>>>> ...And they finally added a 'spell alpha-numeric' feature--so all of us
>>>> Ham
>>>> Radio operators can hear callsigns as they should be heard--rather than
>>>> as
>>>> unintelligible glops <laugh>!
>>>>
>>>> I am on the beta team and I suggested this several years ago. At the
>>>> beginning of every new cycle, I suggested it. It just goes to show
>>>> that
>>>> top
>>>> management does listen ......eventually <laugh>.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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