Hmmmm, I'm kind of interested to see what 8 will be like when it comes out. 
I know I'm not the only one with the outlook express problem but it seems a 
lot fewer people have it since the July update. They did send me a file to 
try to fix it but all that did was mess up 7.0 so I had to reinstall it from 
scratch. Keep me posted if you come up with anything I might like to know 
about, I like to play and make things work but I'm just so busy lately I 
don't have time for that anymore like I used to.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements


> Hi.
>
> I haven't seen the problem with Outlook Express, either, but it looks like
> their attempt to make the JAWS cursor to be usable on Internet Explorer
> broke the whole thing.
>
> I'm also finding out that they changed the way that they process text that
> is newly written to the screen, and I am finding a few applications where
> combo boxes just don't seem to work right.  I've been able to fudge it 
> some
> by playing with Window class assignments and tweaking some scripts, but 
> I'm
> wrestling with a problem right now with JAWS 7.1 that I've been cranking
> away at for over a week and a half and I still don't have a viable 
> solution
> for it.  I did find out however that version 8 uses the same method for
> processing new text, so I guess that makes it worth digging into, because
> it isn't going to go away.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 11:20 PM 11/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>well, if you read on you probably know but if not, let me know and I'll go
>>in to it again.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>>
>>
>> > Hi John.
>> >
>> > It might help a bit if I knew specifically what you are seeing.  What I
>> > have noticed is that the way that JAWS 7.1 handles page refreshes in
>> > Internet Explorer is a little strange, and sometimes it forces you to
>> > manually take it out of forms mode.  I'm less than crazy about that, 
>> > but I
>> > can live with it.
>> >
>> > I will say categorically, though, that after using Window-Eyes Version 
>> > 5.5
>> > and the beta of Version 6.0, that apart from being able to script
>> > applications, Window-Eyes blows the doors off of JAWS right now.  I 
>> > don't
>> > have to refresh the screen hardly ever, and I don't have to sit there 
>> > and
>> > play silly games with color settings to get documents that happen to be 
>> > in
>> > Courier 10 pt font to read.
>> >
>> > If you could tell me what difficulty you've had, maybe I can either
>> > reproduce it, or it is something that I've seen and dealt with already.
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 10:57 PM 10/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>I just wish 1 of the people who doesn't have the problems I have with 
>> >>7.1
>> >>could give me an idea what we're doing different but so far, I've asked 
>> >>3
>> >>people about it and 2 jumped down my throat, 1 is a proven liar and
>> >>trouble
>> >>starter anyway so I don't count him really, another one I guess he 
>> >>knows
>> >>some one at FS or something so they can do no wrong in his eyes, and 
>> >>the
>> >>other person just plain didn't answer the question.
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:40 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi John.
>> >> >
>> >> > I ran into some problems on two machines where a user would be 
>> >> > trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > edit a MS Word document and would be just arrowing around the 
>> >> > document
>> >> > when
>> >> > the cursor would abruptly move to the top of the document.  I was 
>> >> > able
>> >> > to
>> >> > observe this repeatedly on the two machines in question, and they 
>> >> > were
>> >> > both
>> >> > running JAWS 7.0.  Upgrading the machines to JAWS 7.10 cured the
>> >> > problem
>> >> > on
>> >> > both machines, and that is primarily what keeps me from being a big 
>> >> > fan
>> >> > of
>> >> > 7.0.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think that what makes these comparisons so hard is that different
>> >> > computer users use the machines in different ways, and almost no two
>> >> > people
>> >> > have Windows configured in exactly the same way, and sometimes 
>> >> > things
>> >> > affect performance that you would not expect to do so.
>> >> >
>> >> > I for one would feel a lot more comfortable with JAWS if it were 
>> >> > less
>> >> > touchy about video, as I tend to think that is really their achilles
>> >> > heel.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll stick by what I said last night, though.  I like having the
>> >> > capability
>> >> > to script programs.  Window-Eyes' hyperactive windows are handy for
>> >> > some
>> >> > things, but they also impose some limitations that are just not an
>> >> > issue
>> >> > for JAWS.  I don't think in this business it is ever all one or the
>> >> > other--you just have to weigh what is important to you.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 08:21 AM 10/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>I think 7.0 is 1 of the best versions made but 6.2 wasn't too bad
>> >> >>either.
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:49 PM
>> >> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > No fooling!  I think I figured that out quite a while ago.  Lots 
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > sarcasm
>> >> >> > intended!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I use it at work, and I was unimpressed enough with it there that 
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > not spend personal money on it at home.  That is why I am taking 
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > wait
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > see posture with it before spending any more money on it.  I've 
>> >> >> > got
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > foot out the door.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73.
>> >> >> > --Lou K2LKK
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At 06:54 PM 10/28/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>That won't work. You must be authorized to run 7.0 and 7.10 and 
>> >> >> >>if
>> >> >> >>you
>> >> >> >>didn't keep up your SMA, you aren't authorized if it expired with
>> >> >> >>6.20.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> >>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:52 PM
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>So, just download it off Freedom Scientific's web site.  They
>> >> >> >>archive
>> >> >> >>all
>> >> >> >>the previous versions up there.  Even if you have a slow internet
>> >> >> >>connection, it only takes a few minutes for a friend with high 
>> >> >> >>speed
>> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >>download it and dump it to a CD-RW.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>--Lou K2LKK
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Louis Kim Kline
>> >> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >> >> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> >> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> >> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Louis Kim Kline
>> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>