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Actually, Wilmot, it's not that God didn't honor or approve. When my
church and I were praying for this man and his congregation last night,
God spoke to us about it and told us why it didn't work. God didn't
dishonor it or disapprove; there were steps of preparation and
consecration that everyone must go through to become a vessel able to
walk in this type of power. Most people never, ever get to that level.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, September 1, 2006 1:32 am
Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
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> Hi, everyone:
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> Faith or no faith, what was the man's motive? Was his attempt to
> walk on water designed to glorify God? Did he get a word from the
> Lord directing him to attempt this miracle?
>
> Getting a "revelation" that one can do something is not necessarily
> an indication that it is the will of God that he/she indeed does
> that very thing. We assume from the story that the man's
> "revelation" was from God, but the truth is that we really don't
> know whether he heard from God. Barring a witness to his
> "revelation," only he and God knew.
>
> This one thing can be said though. The outcome of the pastor's
> adventure indicates that God did not honor or approve of his
> actions. He therefore is surely one to be pitied.
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> - Wilmot
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> From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:25:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
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> Sam, if you really believe what you posted, please let me know so
> that I can pray for you.
> That pastor was attempting to show others, his congregation, the
> full extent of his faith in God. How many of you first of all,
> actually have any faith, and secondly, have faith that others can
> see and use to help bolster their own faith? We don't know if the
> prophetic is operating in that church; we don't know how much or
> how clearly they hear the voice of God. Furthermore, when you are
> operating in faith, the enemy talks to you loudly and clearly to
> dissuade you from what you're doing or to prevent you from taking
> the proper course of action. The enemy always talks more and
> louder than God does to try to keep people from hearing Him.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Jimba <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 pm
> Subject: Re: Evangelist drowns trying to walk on water
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> > Dear Vera,
> > Drowning could also be a way of walking "inside" water!!! Which
> is
> > greater, to walk "on" or "in" water??? A person who walks "in"
> > water does more work because he is at once suspended in water and
> > at the same time bears the immense weight of the water above
> > him!!! If you agree with me, don't respond.
> > Sam
> >
> > > Alright. Open your bibles to Matthew 14:22, then John 14:12-14
> > > Matt 14:22-33
> > > 2 Immediately Jesus made His disciples get into the boat and go
> > > before Him to the other side, while He sent the multitudes
> away.
> > > 23 And when He had sent the multitudes away, He went up on the
> > > mountain by Himself to pray. Now when evening came, He was
> alone
> > > there. 24 But the boat was now in the middle of the sea, tossed
> > by
> > > the waves, for the wind was contrary. 25 Now in the fourth
> watch
> > > of the night Jesus went to them, walking on the sea. 26 And
> when
> > > the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled,
> > > saying, "It is a ghost!" And they cried out for fear. 27 But
> > > immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, "Be of good cheer! It
> > is
> > > I; do not be afraid." 28 And Peter answered Him and said,
> "Lord,
> > > if it is You, command me to come to You on the water." 29 So He
> > > said, "Come." And when Peter had come down out of the boat, he
> > > walked on the water to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw that
> the
> > > wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink he
> > cried
> > > out, saying, "Lord, save me!"
> > > 31 And immediately Jesus stretched out His hand and caught him,
> > > and said to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?" 32
> > > And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased. 33 Then those
> > > who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You
> > > are the Son of God." NKJV
> > > As I said, Jesus was walking out to the boat that was in the
> > > middle of the Sea of Galilee.
> > > John 14:12-14
> > > 12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the
> > works
> > > that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will
> > > do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My
> > name,
> > > that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
> 14
> > If
> > > you ask anything in My name, I will do it. NKJV
> > > It is not unreasonable to expect to do this miracle; however,
> if
> > > it was done as a test, the Bible specifically instructs against
> > > putting God Almighty to the test. There is only one place God
> > > says to "prove Him in this," and this is in Malachi 3 where
> He's
> > > talking about giving tithes. Jesus expects us to do everything
> > He
> > > did and greater. We know nothing of this man's faith or
> beliefs.
> > > He may, like many of you and too many preachers in too many
> > > pulpits, give lip service to the word of God and believe the
> > parts
> > > he likes and dismisses the parts he doesn't.
> > >
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