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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:35:31 -0400
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Amen

-----Original Message-----
From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Phil Scovell
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?

Angel,

If you need nothing more, then why don't you pray and ask the Lord not
to do
any more miracles for you or to help you because His cross is enough,
according to the experience of the Eucharist.  We don't need Him for our
children that are drug addicts or criminals?  We don't need him because
we
are sick and in physical need?  We don't need him because we are
financially
broke?  You got one thing right; the cross is everything because
everything
was finished there.  You need anything more than that and we all are in
trouble.  The Bible works fine the way it is for me.

Phil.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?


> The point in believing in the bible or in God is not to have him make
> miraculous things happen so we can love him, but because we want to
spend
> our whole lives worshiping him and adoring him.  I believe his
sacrifice
on
> the cross which I experience each time I take the Eucharist and see
first
> hand his precious body and blood as it is transformed before me which
is a
> miracle in itself is enough to believe in him and the bible.  I need
nothing
> else.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
>
>
> Questions of the decade.
> That is where Faith comes in... I have heard that people say that
> mericles don't happen in our time, only in the bible.  It just boggles
> my mind to think that people would think those kinds of things...
> Mericles happen every day, from a baby being born healthy, all ten
> fingers and toes, to seeing and feeling the sunshine on our faces, to
> placing a shirt on your back...
> I am sorry, I do believe they exist, for they did not, what is the
point
> in believing in the bible or GOD?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Jenifer Gilley
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
>
> y are we trying to explain away a miracle?  if this didn't happen...
> who's
> to say miracles exist in the first place?  what makes one miracle
bigger
> and
> more powerful than another?  I believe Jesus Christ is the same today,
> yesterday and forever!  If he arose from the dead... y can't he heal?
y
>
> can't he work wonders?
> Jenifer gilley
> check out my blog
> http://claudastar.blogspot.com/
> AIM: jenibear1998
> msn
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
>
>
> > It is possible?  We mustn't trust all we read.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> >
> >
> >> Whatever you say Angel but what you described isn't a miracle.
What
> they
> >> described was a miracle because he made no such pre recorded
message.
> >> Unless, of course, they lied about the whole thing and if they made
a
> pre
> >> recorded message to be sent later, then she lied by leaving that
> little
> >> detail out.
> >>
> >> Phil.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:39 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> >>
> >>
> >> > I hate to say this, but a message can be scheduled to be sent any
> time
> >> after
> >> > it is recorded.  It will be sent at any pre prescribed time.  I
do
> it
> >> > myself.  If I think of a person's birthday, I will send them a
> message
> > and
> >> > program the voice mail to have it delivered at midnight of the
> person's
> >> > birthday.  That way I don't have to call him that day if I am
busy
> and
> > the
> >> > individual still receives my birthday wishes just as though I
> waited
> > till
> >> > midnight to call him.  He may have indeed been praying for his
son
> at
> > that
> >> > time, knowing his phone would be turned off and he would be in
the
> air,
> > he
> >> > just programmed the message to be sent at that time.  It was a
very
>
> >> > nice
> >> > gesture.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:58 AM
> >> > Subject: Whose On The Phone?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >      The Tennisons were speaking at a church camp.  Their only
> son
> >> > > was in seminary.  That week, he was taking exams for his PHD.
> His
> >> > > mother said that during those three hours each day he was
taking
> >> > > his exams, she would be on her knees praying for him.
> >> > >
> >> > >      The last day of his exams, he called his mother and said
he
> >> > > wanted to talk to his dad.  His dad, he was informed, had left
> >> > > that morning and at that very moment, his dad was on the
airplane
> >> > > flying to the next meeting.  Their son said that he was just
> >> > > hoping to talk to his dad one more time before the last exam
but
> >> > > he understood.  They hung up.
> >> > >
> >> > >      A little more than three hours later, their son called his
> >> > > mom to report that he felt he did well on his exams.  He said,
> "It
> >> > > sure was nice to hear from dad before my exams, too."  Sister
> >> > > Tennison said, she wasn't aware that his dad called him.
> >> > >
> >> > >      Later that day, sister Tennison received a call from her
> >> > > husband.  He said that he had just landed and was checking in.
> >> > > Sister Tennison asked him how it was he was able to call their
> >> > > son.  He said, "I didn't call him.  I was on the airplane so I
> >> > > couldn't have called him."
> >> > >
> >> > >      Calling her son back, he insisted his dad had called him
and
> >> > > he could prove it.  He said that as he left his room, his phone
> >> > > rang.  Thinking it might be his mom calling back, he quickly
> >> > > unlocked the door and ran for the phone but it had quit
ringing.
> >> > > He played the message back.  It was his dad.  He said on the
> tape,
> >> > > "Son, this is dad.  I just wanted you to know I was praying for
> >> > > you today."  Sister Tennison heard the recording over the phone
> >> > > and said it was her husband's voice.  She asked her son to
check
> >> > > the time of the recording.  He did and gave her the figures.
She
> >> > > wrote them down.  She said, that time was the exact time her
> >> > > husband would have still been on the airplane flying to their
> next
> >> > > meeting where she would be the next day.
> >> > >
> >> > >      When their cell phone bill came, there was a one minute
call
> >> > > at that exact same time, but her husband's cell phone was
turned
> >> > > off and in his carry on bag which was in the overhead storage
ben
> >> > > of the airplane, at that exact hour and minute.  If Mr.
Tennison
> >> > > didn't make that call, who did?
> >> > >
> >> > > Phil.
> >> > > 
> >> > >
> >> > > He's ready when you are.
> >> > > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
>
>
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