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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:20:03 -0500
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well, if you read on you probably know but if not, let me know and I'll go 
in to it again.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements


> Hi John.
>
> It might help a bit if I knew specifically what you are seeing.  What I
> have noticed is that the way that JAWS 7.1 handles page refreshes in
> Internet Explorer is a little strange, and sometimes it forces you to
> manually take it out of forms mode.  I'm less than crazy about that, but I
> can live with it.
>
> I will say categorically, though, that after using Window-Eyes Version 5.5
> and the beta of Version 6.0, that apart from being able to script
> applications, Window-Eyes blows the doors off of JAWS right now.  I don't
> have to refresh the screen hardly ever, and I don't have to sit there and
> play silly games with color settings to get documents that happen to be in
> Courier 10 pt font to read.
>
> If you could tell me what difficulty you've had, maybe I can either
> reproduce it, or it is something that I've seen and dealt with already.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 10:57 PM 10/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>I just wish 1 of the people who doesn't have the problems I have with 7.1
>>could give me an idea what we're doing different but so far, I've asked 3
>>people about it and 2 jumped down my throat, 1 is a proven liar and 
>>trouble
>>starter anyway so I don't count him really, another one I guess he knows
>>some one at FS or something so they can do no wrong in his eyes, and the
>>other person just plain didn't answer the question.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:40 PM
>>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>>
>>
>> > Hi John.
>> >
>> > I ran into some problems on two machines where a user would be trying 
>> > to
>> > edit a MS Word document and would be just arrowing around the document
>> > when
>> > the cursor would abruptly move to the top of the document.  I was able 
>> > to
>> > observe this repeatedly on the two machines in question, and they were
>> > both
>> > running JAWS 7.0.  Upgrading the machines to JAWS 7.10 cured the 
>> > problem
>> > on
>> > both machines, and that is primarily what keeps me from being a big fan 
>> > of
>> > 7.0.
>> >
>> > I think that what makes these comparisons so hard is that different
>> > computer users use the machines in different ways, and almost no two
>> > people
>> > have Windows configured in exactly the same way, and sometimes things
>> > affect performance that you would not expect to do so.
>> >
>> > I for one would feel a lot more comfortable with JAWS if it were less
>> > touchy about video, as I tend to think that is really their achilles 
>> > heel.
>> >
>> > I'll stick by what I said last night, though.  I like having the
>> > capability
>> > to script programs.  Window-Eyes' hyperactive windows are handy for 
>> > some
>> > things, but they also impose some limitations that are just not an 
>> > issue
>> > for JAWS.  I don't think in this business it is ever all one or the
>> > other--you just have to weigh what is important to you.
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> > At 08:21 AM 10/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>I think 7.0 is 1 of the best versions made but 6.2 wasn't too bad 
>> >>either.
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:49 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > No fooling!  I think I figured that out quite a while ago.  Lots of
>> >> > sarcasm
>> >> > intended!
>> >> >
>> >> > I use it at work, and I was unimpressed enough with it there that I
>> >> > will
>> >> > not spend personal money on it at home.  That is why I am taking a 
>> >> > wait
>> >> > and
>> >> > see posture with it before spending any more money on it.  I've got 
>> >> > one
>> >> > foot out the door.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73.
>> >> > --Lou K2LKK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 06:54 PM 10/28/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >>That won't work. You must be authorized to run 7.0 and 7.10 and if 
>> >> >>you
>> >> >>didn't keep up your SMA, you aren't authorized if it expired with 
>> >> >>6.20.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:52 PM
>> >> >>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Jaws 7.1 Memory requirements
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>So, just download it off Freedom Scientific's web site.  They 
>> >> >>archive
>> >> >>all
>> >> >>the previous versions up there.  Even if you have a slow internet
>> >> >>connection, it only takes a few minutes for a friend with high speed 
>> >> >>to
>> >> >>download it and dump it to a CD-RW.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--Lou K2LKK
>> >> >
>> >> > Louis Kim Kline
>> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
> 

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