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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:21:57 -0400
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that god awful 7.1 just came out a couple months ago, I believe 8.0 is 
waiting for Vista's release, or the date to be set at least.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007 
incompatib...


>    Harvey and all:
>
> I don't know if it'd do any good, but maybe  someone on the list would 
> like
> to forward this info onto the tech people at Freedom Scientific, so that
> they could start designing a fix for the problem for the next major Jaws
> upgrade.
>
> In fact, now that I think of it, isn't it about time for Jaws 8.0 to come
> out?
>
> I thought the new upgrades came out in September, or at least sometime in
> the Fall of each year.
>
> Anyway, this is just a thought.
>
> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:24 AM
> Subject: Fw: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
> incompatib...
>
>
>> Keep in mind that this is one person's opinion, but I thought maybe 
>> people
>> should see this who are thinking of buying Norton 2007.  73.
>> Harvey Heagy (N.5.H.A.U.)
>>
>>
>> Hello, As a long time user of Symantec products, I am saddened to inform
>> everyone that the new Norton 2007 products are no longer compatible with
>> Jaws. After purchasing Norton Internet Security 2007, and performing
>> extensive testing on it, I've determined the following.
>> * A blind person is unable to activate the product without sighted
>> assistance. if Jaws is loaded, the Activation program immediately quits,
>> rather than displaying its dialogs. This happens during the setup 
>> process,
>> and causes your installation to be left in an unusable state. Fixing this
>> requires sighted assistance to get through the activation process, at
> which
>> time the product (mostly) repairs itself.
>> * Once the product is installed, configuration is exceedingly difficult.
> The
>> software is completely inaccessible from the keyboard, Unlike it previous
>> versions the interface does not appear to take advantage of the Windows
>> built in html rendering facilities, instead using its own rendering
> method.
>> All configuration must be done with the jaws cursor, and Jaws's ability 
>> to
>> see things like buttons is eratic at best. (admittedly, it may be 
>> possible
>> to improve this via the use of a tool like Hotspot clicker, but getting 
>> to
> a
>> state where you could would require heavy sighted intevention, and its
>> questionable as to whether it would be worth it.) * When the product 
>> tries
>> to alert with Jaws loaded (at least on my machine), it instead blue
> screens
>> and reboots. I tested this with the standard antivirus test. Eicar?
>> (not sure on the spelling), which is a harmless .com file intended to do
>> nothing but trigger antivirus products. (all products use this as a
>> standard, "hello world" test.)
>>
>> The combination of the three above points leads me to believe that 
>> ongoing
>> persistance with this product would prove fruitless.
>> (Note: while I did not perform testing with Window Eyes, it has been my
>> experience in the past that WE has been less effective at accessing the
>> Norton interfaces when they were accessible, so I have no reason to
> believe,
>> and hence no inclination to try it, that the situation with 2007 would be
>> any better, in fact, I suspect it would be dramaticly worse).
>>
>> This message is a heads up to advise others not to buy the Norton
>> 2007 products. if you are a Norton user, stick with 2006, as that is, at
>> least, accessible. If not, then it looks like its now time to find a new
>> package.
>>
> 

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