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Good stuff!

Everybody say JO!

JOE!

How many miracle working president are there? In the world? In Africa?
In the Gambia?

”coincidentally, all Muslims.”? 

Could explain part of the power as a faith healer - of Be-lie-vers
The others (the Kuffar) attempting to walk on the holy Kanilai water without faith may sink like a stone.

The yes–up or shut- up back-up - that's always the Authorised testimony. And then there’s the saying “Blessed are those who haven’t seen but still believe” and so those who haven’t believe confirm and so the rumour takes wings and spreads.
If only you too could feed the masses with five loaves and two fishes......

The claims are enough to attract world wide attention, but the BBC hasn’t got there yet to interview the Quranic and Herbal healer and to review the patients.

On the down side, do you remember when Thabo Mbeki said that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS?
There was uproar and Mbeki became a villain in the eyes of many.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Thabo+Mbeki+said+that+HIV+doesn%E2%80%99t+cause+AIDS&btnG=Search&meta=



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> From: samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/01/18 to AM 10:18:04 CET
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: New Member
> 
> Dear List Manager,
> 
> Please subscribe Mr Wassa Fatty to the list.His email address is 
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> 
> >From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: [>-<] RE: Jammeh cures PATIENTS at RVTH
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:25:26 +0000
> >
> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Joe Sambou" 
> ><[log in to unmask]> ]
> >
> >
> >Sanusi, please do not do this to me again.  Right now my stomach hurts from 
> >laughing so hard.  Folks, Bala will kill Yaya with the stuff he supplies 
> >him these days, and I ain't complaining.  After boring myself with some dry 
> >Sarbanes-Oxley material, I stumbled into this tickler.
> >
> >"Jammeh combined both the spiritual power of curing and traditional 
> >medicine to alleviate the suffering at the emergency unit, as well as 
> >restore the health of patients in critical conditions."
> >
> >Wait a minute dog, you joking, right?  I have heard stoned heads claim to 
> >see cats reversing (as in "Muse Bui  Backstand"), but this one has to stark 
> >way up there, in the high spectrum.  What is wrong with Africans?
> >
> >" I have the title of doctor. In fact, I am a stronger doctor than them, 
> >because I use the name of Allah and the Qur’an”.
> >
> >Tell them Doc, I mean God!  Bul Ragal Darra!
> >
> >"The curative power of the Gambian leader left many mesmerized and stunned, 
> >including his entourage, doctors, nurses, patients and other staff of RVTH. 
> >It was his second consecutive day at the hospital, after attending to the 
> >patients on Saturday."
> >
> >Say what?
> >
> >"Speaking in an interview with journalists, shortly after attending to the 
> >patients, President Jammeh said: “Nowadays there are a lot of strange 
> >illnesses. It seems there is no remedy for them and most of time even if 
> >there is remedy, it takes a lot of time for patients to heal. So I think 
> >its time for me to come out from hiding and show them what I can do”.
> >
> >Give it to them Doc!  Show them what your mama gave you!  Gambians asked, 
> >they shall receive in abundance.
> >
> >"So you will realise that the whole ward that we took care of yesterday 
> >were coincidentally, all Muslims.”
> >
> >See non-muslims in the Gambia what you are missing here.  God Jammeh is 
> >healing the sick (Muslims) and you are missing out on the good stuff, all 
> >because you refuse to convert.  You'll better convert "Tutsuit", so you can 
> >get some that God healin'.
> >
> >"He disclosed that he would also attend to HIV/Aids patients,which he said 
> >would require time. He elaborated: “What we could do is to take members of 
> >Santa Yalla, who have exposed themselves so that we can start with them. 
> >But I will tell you when I am ready, because it is not easy to do it. It is 
> >not easy to prepare.” He stressed that one must pray a lot."
> >
> >Africa, your prayers and wishes have been answered, God Yaya is here to 
> >cure all HIV/AIDS patients.  Gambians are so lucky that they have a God for 
> >a president that can do everything for them.  In a few days, he shall turn 
> >half the soil in Kanilai into Findi and Rice, half the wells into 
> >Ginjambero, and this is just for starters.  You'll provoked him into 
> >unleashing his Godly powers, you shall see.
> >
> >"He then affirmed that he is willing to share the knowledege, provided it 
> >would not be commercialised. “If it is going to be commercialised, then 
> >no!,” he stressed."
> >
> >Please most able Leader God Dod, Jammeh, share your Godly knowledge, 
> >Coumbayaa!
> >
> >" Dr Malick Njie, Chief Medical Director of RVTH, expressed his impression 
> >with Jammeh’s miracle, saying what “he has got is different from what we 
> >learnt in medical school”.
> >
> >"Dr Njie added: “I was amazed by somebody who said he could not breathe and 
> >who thought he would die. But after what he gave him, he asked for a job. I 
> >cannot talk much about that because I do not have much knowledge about it. 
> >But traditional medicine is someting that is in the country. It’s been an 
> >excellent visit. We had him yesterday, we had him here today. His mere 
> >presence stimulated a lot in the patients.”
> >
> >He disclosed that a woman, who was in a bad condition wanted to be 
> >discharged, after she had received “something from the President. She was 
> >ready to go. I told her well,. if you are well, you must go so that we can 
> >admit other patients. But His Excellency said do not let her go.”
> >
> >I see Flavo Fla, is doing the back-up.  Yeeeeh Boyee!  This the same Bobo 
> >"tha" say "Body Noday Smell Na Dead 'Ouse".  Watch out for the "Funky 
> >Chicken" as Doc Njie is about to let loose.
> >
> >How about some Mauritanian commentary on the testimonies.  Amadou Jah Kor 
> >Oumar, Oumar Jah Kor Jaiteh, Jaiteh Jah Kor Ebureima, Ebureima Jah kor 
> >Iydara, Iydara Jah Kor Elbo, Elbo, Elbo, Aiywa!  Orzoe!  Walahi, Orzoe!  
> >Mom Beet Dougul!
> >
> >And so, one has to humor the occasion to prevent from crying.  While the 
> >world in getting ahead, this is what Yaya and Gambia has reduced themselves 
> >to.  Interesting that this came on the heels of the NA elections.  Whom is 
> >fooling whom?  I am surprised Imam Kah is not part of the delegation to 
> >grace the occasion.  Then again why the need if God himself presided.  
> >Gambians, Gisangulene Darra!
> >
> >Chi Jaama
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Jammeh cures PATIENTS at RVTH
> >>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:37:45 +0000
> >>
> >>       Jammeh cures PATIENTS at RVTH               Written by Ebrima Jaw 
> >>Manneh        Monday, 15 January 2007       The curative power of the Holy 
> >>Qur’an and traditional medicine were yesterday put to effect at the 
> >>Accident and Emergency (A&E) Unit and the Private Ward of the Royal 
> >>Victoria Teaching Hopital (RVTH) by President Yahya Jammeh.
> >>   Jammeh combined both the spiritual power of curing and traditional 
> >>medicine to alleviate the suffering at the emergency unit, as well as 
> >>restore the health of patients in critical conditions. The process was so 
> >>effective that patients responded to the healing techniques within a short 
> >>span of time. His medicinal application was simply the Holy Qur’an 
> >>combined with a few traditional herbs.
> >>   The curative power of the Gambian leader left many mesmerised and 
> >>stunned, including his entourage, doctors, nurses, patients and other 
> >>staff of RVTH. It was his second consecutive day at the hospital, after 
> >>attending to the patients on Saturday.
> >>
> >>   Speaking in an interview with journalists, shortly after attending to 
> >>the patients, President Jammeh said: “Nowadays there are a lot of strange 
> >>illnesses. It seems there is no remedy for them and most of time even if 
> >>there is remedy, it takes a lot of time for patients to heal. So I think 
> >>its time for me to come out from hiding and show them what I can do”.
> >>
> >>   He then added: “I told Gambians since 1994 that there are a lot of 
> >>things that I can do. But Gambians would never know the Yahya Jammeh that 
> >>is here. I believe in two things. If somebody is sick and you cannot cure 
> >>the person with the Holy Qur’an, the person is certainly going to die. And 
> >>it would not take 24 hours. There is no disease in this world that you 
> >>cannot cure using the Qur’an and some natural herbs that are existing 
> >>either in the forest and/or at our homes. So this is traditional herbal 
> >>medicine but basically used in the Qur’an. It is spiritual. So you will 
> >>realise that the whole ward that we took care of yesterday were 
> >>coincidentally, all Muslims.”
> >>
> >>   He then continued: “Yesterday, there were two patients that were in 
> >>very critical conditions. In fact, both of them could not talk. I saw that 
> >>one of them was suffering and was in great pain, so I had to take care of 
> >>him to relief the pain. But the good thing about it was that he was 
> >>temporary relieved. But I said yesterday that I have no home with him, 
> >>including the old man.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Source
> >>
> >>   President Jammeh told journalists he got his medicine from the forest, 
> >>saying “what is important is that it my concoction and my knowledge. It is 
> >>a natural knowledge for me, which is based on the Qur’an. These are 
> >>basically plants. I have the title of doctor. In fact, I am a stronger 
> >>doctor than them, because I use the name of Allah and the Qur’an”.
> >>
> >>   On the continuity of curing patients, President Jammeh decribed the 
> >>exercise as a duty. However, he pointed out that he also has other 
> >>responsibilities. “One, I am a head of state and have to take care of 
> >>state matters. I am also a family man. Also, I have to pray a lot. In 
> >>fact, what will happen will be Saturday clinics. And of course, it will 
> >>not be every Saturday, because sometimes I have to go to Kanilai. But we 
> >>will make an arrangement with them so that we can deal with the most 
> >>critical cases. The rest they can take care of them, such as malaria. But 
> >>cases where there is no hope, those are the ones I will concentrate on,” 
> >>he noted.
> >>
> >>   He disclosed that he would also attend to HIV/Aids patients,which he 
> >>said would require time. He elaborated: “What we could do is to take 
> >>members of Santa Yalla, who have exposed themselves so that we can start 
> >>with them. But I will tell you when I am ready, because it is not easy to 
> >>do it. It is not easy to prepare.” He stressed that one must pray a lot.
> >>
> >>   President Jammeh then observed that he does not “ just go and cure a 
> >>patient. There are signs I look for and I use the Qur’an”. However, he 
> >>confirmed that for two of the patients, he did not use the Qur’an because 
> >>he was “definitely sure that they are going to die. It is not easy but 
> >>that is the way it is. There is nothing I can do for somebody whose time 
> >>is up. But if it is a question of illness, we can take care of it”.
> >>
> >>   He informed journalists that he started the curing process with his 
> >>relative to ensure people understand that it’s no joke. “You must have 
> >>seen the other one who before I touched him was saying he could not 
> >>breathe and that he was going to die. After I attended to him, he was 
> >>asking for a job to the extent that he showed me his driving license. Its 
> >>all with the power of Almighty Allah,” he said.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   The link
> >>
> >>   Asked about the link between the Qur’an and traditional medicine, 
> >>President Jammeh replied: “There is no distinction between the Qur’an and 
> >>traditional medicine. Traditional medicine is purely the use of herbs. And 
> >>every herb that is of medicinal value is mentioned in the Qur’an. You will 
> >>also realise that there some people call marabouts, who use the Qur’an to 
> >>write something, wash it and give it to the person to drink. So that’s the 
> >>link. And for any verse that you can use in the Qur’an for healing, there 
> >>is a tree in the forest that you can use if you cannot use the Qur’an. So 
> >>if you can use the Qur’an and the tree itself, it makes it simple. You are 
> >>invoking the name of Almighty Allah. And Allah has said that there are so 
> >>many things that we can do. There are so many things that are hidden from 
> >>us.”
> >>
> >>   President Jammeh further noted that there is no difference between 
> >>traditional medicine, modern medicine and the Qur’an. He explained: 
> >>“Whatever they use as modern medicine, must have been extracted from a 
> >>plant or naturally existing chemicals. In the Qur’an, you have both the 
> >>herbs and elements - elements of a chemical nature that you can use. In 
> >>fact, what you extract from the plant are chemicals that are extracted to 
> >>make medicine. Some may exist in mineral or gaseous form to make medicine. 
> >>The source of all modern and traditional medicine is from Almighty Allah, 
> >>and that is the Qur’an. Allah says he has created for mankind all in this 
> >>Qur’an. It’s like a literature. I may read a story like that of 
> >>Shakespeare and I may know the literal meaning of it. But somebody who has 
> >>done literature would be able to explain to you what they are talking 
> >>about, which may be different from what I understand about it.”
> >>
> >>   He then affirmed that he is willing to share the knowledege, provided 
> >>it would not be commercialised. “If it is going to be commercialised, then 
> >>no!,” he stressed.
> >>
> >>   Dr Malick Njie, Chief Medical Director of RVTH, expressed his 
> >>impression with Jammeh’s miracle, saying what “he has got is different 
> >>from what we learnt in medical school”.
> >>
> >>   Dr Njie added: “I was amazed by somebody who said he could not breathe 
> >>and who thought he would die. But after what he gave him, he asked for a 
> >>job. I cannot talk much about that because I do not have much knowledge 
> >>about it. But traditional medicine is someting that is in the country. 
> >>It’s been an excellent visit. We had him yesterday, we had him here today. 
> >>His mere presence stimulated a lot in the patients.”
> >>
> >>   He disclosed that a woman, who was in a bad condition wanted to be 
> >>discharged, after she had received “something from the President. She was 
> >>ready to go. I told her well,. if you are well, you must go so that we can 
> >>admit other patients. But His Excellency said do not let her go.”
> >>
> >>   He said another female patient, who was in a psychotic condition and  
> >>incoherent also responded to President Jammeh’s curative medicine, after 
> >>it was administered to her. “She was ready to go home, which we found 
> >>amazing. She started talking coherently. This morning the consultant did 
> >>the check-up round and certified her fit to be discharged”.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Patients’ account
> >>
> >>   Also speaking to the journalists, Amadou Bah, a patient at the A&E 
> >>Unit, said: “I am getting much better than before. I am really grateful to 
> >>President Jammeh for treating me. I am very happy.”
> >>
> >>   Omar Jaiteh, another patient, said: “I now feel fine. I am feeling much 
> >>better now.”
> >>
> >>   Ebrima Demba, who was confined to his sickbed since his admission at 
> >>the A&E Unit, said: “I feel really great. I could not walk from my bed to 
> >>the toilet. But now, I can walk thanks to the President. Illness is cured 
> >>through a gradual process and I really want the President to come again.”
> >>
> >>   Alagie Hydara and Elbo Jarjue, also expressed similar sentiments.
> >>
> >>   President Jammeh brought gifts for the patients and then gave out 
> >>D30,000 to a lady, whose father passed away at the A&E Unit. He also gave 
> >>gifts of cash to the Kanifing gas explosion victims at the Intensive Care 
> >>Unit.
> >>
> >>   President Jammeh was accompanied to the hospital by the Secretary 
> >>General, a number of Secretaries of State and the Chief of Protocol.
> >>
> >>
> >>Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  Laye, yet another reminder of 
> >>what Gambians that voted opted for. What
> >>happened to "All the NIA detainees are freed?" Just a load of you know
> >>what. Since Gambians are not interested, the Jammeh Show will continue.
> >>
> >>Chi Jaama
> >>
> >>Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: RSF Afrique / RSF Africa
> >> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> >
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: THE GAMBIA - Journalist missing since July being held in
> >> >provincial police station, newspaper discovers / GAMBIE - Un 
> >>journaliste,
> >> >porté disparu depuis juillet 2006 , est détenu illégalement dans un
> >> >commissariat de province
> >> >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:45:44 +0100
> >> >
> >> >English / Français
> >> >
> >> >Reporters Without Borders
> >> >Press release
> >> >
> >> >15 January 2007
> >> >
> >> >GAMBIA
> >> >
> >> >Journalist missing since July being held in provincial police station,
> >> >newspaper discovers
> >> >
> >> >The opposition triweekly Foroyaa has revealed that "Chief" Ebrima 
> >>Manneh, a
> >> >journalist with the privately-owned Daily Observer newspaper who went
> >> >missing on 7 July, is being held at a police station in Fatoto, a small
> >> >town 400 km east of the capital.
> >> >
> >> >"Manneh must be freed at once," Reporters Without Borders said today.
> >> >"There is no law that allows him to be secretly held for seven months. 
> >>The
> >> >scandal of his illegal detention has been compounded by the government's
> >> >cruelty towards his family in insisting all this time that it was not
> >> >holding him."
> >> >
> >> >The 12-14 January issue of Foroyaa said Manneh has been at the Fatoto
> >> >police station for the past three months and three weeks. Arrested at 
> >>his
> >> >home by the National Intelligence Agency (NIA) on 7 July, he was 
> >>initially
> >> >held at Mile Two prison in Banjul, the newspaper said. He was then
> >> >transferred to police stations at Kartong and Kuntaur before finally 
> >>being
> >> >taken to Fatoto.
> >> >
> >> >During all this time, Manneh's family and friends repeatedly asked the
> >> >authorities if they were holding him, and they always denied that they
> >> >were. No charges have been brought against him.
> >> >
> >> >It is not known why Manneh was arrested shortly after an African Union
> >> >summit in Banjul on 1-2 July. Several members of the independent press 
> >>were
> >> >arrested at the time for allegedly disrupting the event.
> >> >
> >> >-----------
> >> >
> >> >GAMBIE
> >> >
> >> >Un journaliste, porté disparu depuis juillet 2006, est détenu 
> >>illégalement
> >> >dans un commissariat de province
> >> >
> >> >Le trihebdomadaire d'opposition Foroyaa a révélé que "Chief" Ebrima 
> >>Manneh,
> >> >journaliste du quotidien privé Daily Observer qui avait disparu le 7
> >> >juillet 2006, est détenu au commissariat de Fatoto, une petite ville à 
> >>400
> >> >km à l'est de la capitale.
> >> >
> >> >"Chief Ebrima Manneh doit être libéré sans délai. Aucune loi ne permet 
> >>sa
> >> >séquestration depuis sept mois. De plus, au scandale de l'incarcération
> >> >illégale de ce journaliste, s'ajoute la cruauté du déni des autorités
> >> >gambiennes vis-à-vis de sa famille", a déclaré Reporters sans 
> >>frontières.
> >> >
> >> >Dans son édition du 12 au 14 janvier 2007, Foroyaa a révélé que "Chief"
> >> >Ebrima Manneh était détenu depuis trois mois et trois semaines au
> >> >commissariat de police de Fatoto, après avoir été conduit dans divers
> >> >centres de police depuis son arrestation, le 7 juillet 2006. Arrêté à 
> >>son
> >> >domicile par la National Intelligence Agency (NIA, les services de
> >> >renseignements), il a été d'abord incarcéré à la prison Mile Two, à 
> >>Banjul,
> >> >avant d'être transféré successivement aux commissariats de Kartong et
> >> >Kuntaur, puis Fatoto. Face aux demandes répétées de sa famille et de ses
> >> >amis, les autorités gambiennes ont toujours nié détenir ce journaliste, 
> >>sur
> >> >lequel ne pèse aucune charge.
> >> >
> >> >Le journaliste avait été arrêté pour une raison inconnue, peu après la
> >> >clôture du sommet des chefs d'Etat et de gouvernement de l'Union 
> >>africaine
> >> >(UA), qui s'est tenu à Banjul les 1er et 2 juillet. Plusieurs 
> >>arrestations
> >> >avaient alors eu lieu au sein de la presse indépendante, accusée d'avoir
> >> >perturbé l'événement.
> >> >
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