Ginny, the question of being honest would arise in your context if in reality Waa has been canvassing votes for the A(F)PRC's candidate. Dont forget that the claim was published by The Daily Observer which is a media outlet of the ruling dictatorship. Lets move beyond any ping-pong game between NADD and The UDP in this case. May be we are witnessing some desparate struggle by Saidykhan to attain victory. As regard Waa's not contesting at the moment, please be inform that the decision was arrived at after due considerations.
Omar Joof.
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:32:13 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Hello, I find it interesting that Wa Juwara could be given a pass, as
> it were, and / or that people seem to be making excuses for him. What
> if Wa Juwara wasn't still in the NADD alliance? Would people be so
> quick to either deny the allegations, or say, "Oh, well, he's just
> trying to get back at the UDP", etc. I'd think that any allegation
> that Wa Juwara was campaigning for a candidate from an opposing party,
> while still being a member of NADD, is well, serious. Why couldn't he
> just have ran for himself, if the story is true that he is campaigning
> for the APRC candidate, and the reason is to get back at UDP, as it
> were, if he wanted to get back at them so much, then why couldn't he
> have just ran for office himself? Why seemingly leave your own party
> and campaign for the APRC?
>
>
> I don't think anything justifies supporting this party, especially
> coming from someone who has often spoken out against the APRC. I'd
> guess that it would be one thing if Wa Juwara was not a member of any
> party, then he could do whatever he wants, but he is still a member of
> NADD.
>
>
> Anyway, bringing up the UDP still doesn't address the "if" and the
> "why" of this story. If it is true that this is indeed happening,
> then why. And him trying to settle a score with the UDP is to me a
> bad excuse!
>
>
> If UDP engages in what some consider to be bad behavior, then why
> should members of NADD engage in the same? If NADD and their
> supporters keep talking about charting a new way for Gambians, keep
> talking about changing the structure of government for the better,
> than what does it say when one of their members decides to settle old
> scores with parties he was previously involved in by campaigning for
> the ruling party? So much for being the change and new hope for
> Gambians. Seems like business as usual to me.
>
>
> And if this was anyone else, we'd be talking about how he'd do
> anything for his own self-interest, we'd be digging up past quotes of
> his pronouncements against the APRC, and we'd thump our chests and say
> how much better we are, how much more principled we are, because *we*,
> would never stoop to such a low!
>
>
> But because it's Wa Juwara, because he's still a emmber of NADD,
> we try to make excuses for him, try to rubbish the story even while
> the APRC candidate himself is coming and saying that the story is
> true, and then finding flimsy reasons for why Wa Juwara is doing this,
> and continuing to blame the UDP for just about everything under the
> sun. But Wa Juwara's grievances with the UDP go back before NADD, so
> again, the excuse thatt his is just his way of getting back at the UDP
> just doesn't work for me. And again, making this excuse implies that
> this is true. And if it is, why couldn't he just be honest and say
> why he was doing this?
>
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
> On 1/24/07, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Joe
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > The title "THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!" speaks volumes. Our struggle is not
> > about individuals, but the plight of our country. If the voters should
> > choose or reject Halifa, Sidia, Hamat, Kemeseng, etc., they will live
> > with that choice, rubberstamp or not. I hope the opposition increase their
> > representation and for once, we need to quit the hypocrisy, for it
> > takes us no where.
> >
> > Well my brother, you have to realise that the APRC's propaganda
> > machine-Daily Observer has come up with a rebuttal to Waa's remarks on the
> > Point Newspaper. Therefore, the onus lies on Waa to take another step by
> > bringing a libel suit against the Daily Observer. Moreover, I wonder why Waa
> > cannot hold a Press Conference and address the latest allegations made by
> > the Daily Observer.
> >
> > Finally, I note your reference to the three-way contest taking place at
> > Halifa's constituency. Unlike the latest on Waa, I am yet to hear of any
> > allegations that a UDP bigwig is endorsing Sainey Jaiteh's candidature.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Sanusi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Musa, at this stage of the game, it matters zilch to attempt to debate
> > this
> > non-issue. It is how many seats the opposition can win, that I am concerned
> > about. Those that refuse to contest tactically gave us a promise that they
> > will sweep the polls and do not need tactical anything. They also promised
> > that Halifa will be defeated and have their energies towards that. That is
> > the real story here. They can bring Waa as a subject, but ignore the
> > pettiness and vindictiveness of the UDP, that is going to cost Gambians,
> > again. If Waa was with the APRC, would the APRC not broadcast that on GRTS
> > 24/7 and for the rest of the campaign? Am glad they expose their short
> > sightedness and lack of vision, yet, again. Yes, the voters will decide who
> > they want to represent them. Kemeseng was with NADD and now he is running
> > under the UDP ticket. Those Gambians with balanced thinking would agree
> > that he should be supported to retain that seat, and NADD stated that
> > openly, and that is the prudent thing to do. How come Waa is not being
> > accused of campaigning against Kemeseng? We need to stop this foolishness.
> > It is about INCREASING OPPOSITION REPRESENTATION" in the Assembly, stupid!
> > The title "THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!" speaks volumes. Our struggle is not
> > about individuals, but the plight of our country. If the voters should
> > choose or reject Halifa, Sidia, Hamat, Kemeseng, etc., they will live with
> > that choice, rubberstamp or not. I hope the opposition increase their
> > representation and for once, we need to quit the hypocrisy, for it takes us
> > no where.
> >
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > >From: Musa Jeng
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:36:15 +0000
> > >
> > >Ginny:
> > >
> > >It is interesting that sometimes in politics you will see strange
> > >bedfellows. As I read this thread - the truth uncovered, it really amuses
> > >me and only reinforces the hypocrisy we sometimes find ourselves in. I am
> > >willing to believe that maybe Waa Juwara would rather see the APRC
> > >candidate win against the UDP candidate, of course I do not know that for a
> > >fact, but that in itself does not make him an APRC. I am also willing to go
> > >out on a limp and say that the majority of UDP supporters, including Mr.
> > >Darboe would love to see Halifa looses his seat and deny NADD any chance of
> > >winning a seat in the national assembly, even if it means having an APRC
> > >National Assembly. Again, that does not make him or UDP supporters become
> > >APRC. Remember NADD call for an Alliance to work with all oppostion parties
> > >against the APRC, and UDP did not answer to this call. As the Chairman of
> > >the STGDP, we have made reaching out and took steps to facilitate a
> > >tactical alliance ,and could not get any kind of
> > > commitment from the UDP. MAybe, it is an unfair statement to make, but I
> > >personally believe that the UDP's mission in this election is to settle
> > >scores with NADD. It should not be a surprise if Waa Juwara and some NADD
> > >supporters wish the same thing towards the UDP.
> > >
> > >Let us all stop the hypocrisy, and accept that these past three years in
> > >the run to the presidential elections, there are certain realities that can
> > >ever be pushed away under the rug.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Musa JEng
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >From: Ginny Quick
> > > > OK, so someone here is not telling the truth, whether it's Wa Juwara
> > > > or the APRC candidate, I don't know, but what I do know is that this
> > > > has nothing to do with the UDP? Why bring them up in all of this? It
> > > > would be one thing if someone from the UDP went and said, "Hey, look,
> > > > Wa Juwara is campaigning for the APRC." Then, you might have a point!
> > > > However, it is the APRC candidate himself that is making this charge,
> > > > not anyone from the UDP, as far as I am aware!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I understand that some people are upset that the UDP / NRP has
> > > > put up a candidate in Halifa Sallah's district, but making a point of
> > > > bringing this up, in reference to Wa Juwara, why do this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If there is still a NADD, and Wa Juwara is still a part of said
> > > > NADD, then someone really definitively needs to get to the bottom of
> > > > this! I'd imagine that finding out the truth of the matter wouldn't
> > > > be too hard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ginny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/23/07, pasamba jow
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sanusi,
> > > > > Waa has rubbished this mendacious story in his interview with both
> > >the
> > > > > point and the freedom newspaper. The real truth is the UDP's
> > >vindictive and
> > > > > petty politics of let's get Halifa lose his seat.
> > > > > Pasamba Jow
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sanusi Owens wrote:
> > > > > Well, it now looks as if the APRC will soon form an "alliance" with
> > >Waa
> > > > > Juwara. Anway, I only hope this is just a mere propaganda.
> > > > >
> > > > > Waa Juwara supports APRC candidate' Written by Pa Malick Faye Tuesday,
> > >23
> > > > > January 2007 On tour
> > > > > Essa Saidykhan, the APRC candidate for Niamina Dankunku constituency,
> > >has
> > > > > said that Mr Lamin Waa Juwara of the opposition NADD alliance, has
> > >expressed
> > > > > his support for his candidature in the forthcoming National Assembly
> > > > > elections slated for January 25.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Saidykhan, made this revelation recently at an APRC meeting held in
> > >the
> > > > > area as part of the party's tour of the country ahead of the
> > >parliamentary
> > > > > polls. According to him, Mr Juwara has been campaigning for him in the
> > >area
> > > > > during his sojourn in Dankunku.
> > > > > He also revealed that Mr Juwara also had discussions with some APRC
> > > > > stalwarts in the area amongst whom included Alhagie Kebba Ceesay,
> > >former NIA
> > > > > Director General, Alagie Sulayman Keita, former commissioner NBR and
> > >Mr
> > > > > Lamin Nyabally Parmanent Secretary, Department of State for Works.
> > > > > Mr Saidykhan expressed confidence in sweeping the polls in Thursday's
> > > > > elections as according to him, the people of the area are firmly
> > >behind him.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ceesay, Soffie" wrote:
> > > > > FYI & A.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soffie
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