Thanks so much Bill! Have a great week-end 
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  Subject: Re: It's the balance of fats.....


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  Katie Meyer wrote:
  > Bill, I appreciate your reply!    The person that initially informed me of Paleo has been SOoooo helpful. She's been doing this for a very long time and has such a good handle on it. I appreciate this support group as it keeps me from driving my friend crazy.  I know she loves to talk about Paleo. She's passionate about it, but I keep questioning the same stuff over and over, I'm sure. 
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  > What you've said makes a lot of sense. I love the fat on meats. I never trim that. Paula takes in a lot, too. SOoooo, I'll even eat more.  I believe one mistake I'm making is "bacon." I'm consuming way too much with eggs in the morning. What's your thought on that? Steak and chicken are my favorites, and I've been doing pork roasts, too. I should probably add fish??? I've been eating pistachios, which I suppose is OK, but doing a real no no ... you'll cringe ... sugar free sodas, and S.F. popsicles, too. 
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  > Now that I'm typing all of this, and confessing my sins, and can clearly see "where the cravings are coming from." Have I hit the nail on the head?   YIKES!!! Will I ever get this??? 
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  >   From: Bill Wilcox<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 
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  >   Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:42 PM
  >   Subject: Re: It's the balance of fats.....
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  >   Welcome Katie.  I would nix the fruits.  They contain a lot of fructose 
  >   which is just as bad as sucrose.  Fruits have been bred to be sweeter 
  >   than their ancestors.
  >   When you say you will eat nothing but protein and the fat it contains 
  >   you have it backward.  Get the fattiest cuts of meat you can find.  
  >   Brisket is good, or ribeyes.  Eat the fat first, then eat the meat.  You 
  >   can probably get fat trimmings from your butcher for free.  Eat fat 
  >   until you are sated, then eat the meat.  I probably eat 10-12 oz fat and 
  >   16 oz meat every day.  Don't worry about the 3 meals per day thing.  If 
  >   you are hungry, eat.  If you are thirsty drink --- water.
  >   Beware no-calorie, no-carb sweet drinks. 
  >   Just my $.02
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  >   Katie Meyer wrote:
  >   > Your points are very interesting, too. As a newcomer, I have SOoooo much to
  >   > explore, and learn. I am taking in the scanty amount of carbs I'm eating
  >   > mostly from green veggies, and a small amount of fruit. I am still plagued
  >   > with strong urges to stray though. I'm resisting this, but may begin nothing
  >   > but protein and the fat it contains for a few weeks at least. I understand
  >   > that will nix the cravings. I just wonder if the cravings will return down
  >   > the road though, as I add more foods back???  
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  >   > Katie
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  >   > From: Tom Bri
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  >   > Date: 3/6/2009 6:46:59 PM
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  >   > Subject: Re: It's the balance of fats.....
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  >   > Thanks Judee. Interesting.
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  >   > I have long doubted the relevance of rats to human nutrition. Rats
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  >   > naturally have a very different diet than humans, though with a lot of
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  >   > crossover as both are omnivores.
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  >   > In regards to the result of this article and the paleo diet, if the
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  >   > carbo amounts in your diet are consistently low then it really does
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  >   > not matter what your insulin sensitivity is. You will rarely produce
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  >   > enough insulin to cause trouble if you are getting most of your
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  >   > calories from fat and the remainer from protein plus a bit from carbs.
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  >   > turation of those fatty acids. When the amount of energy gained from
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  >   > fat was greater than 37%, it was found that insulin sensitivity was
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  >   > impaired in both the saturated fat group (-7.8%) and the
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  >   > monounsaturated fat group (-3.3%). However, when the amount of energy
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  >   > coming from fat was less than 37%, a significant difference was found
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  >   > with saturated fat still decreasing insulin sensitivity (-12.5%) and
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  >   > monounsaturated fat increasing it (+8.8%). Within the context of this
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  >   > study, it would seem that insulin resistance can be improved
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  >   >>   on a diet c onsisting of less than 37% of energy from fat, with this fat
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  >   > coming predominantly from monounsaturated fatty acids.
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