Date:    Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:39:02 -0700
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Subject: Re: exercise and carbs
 

>Jim
I normally eat carbs, yes, but not out of any belief
that they are in any way necessary.

Mike
When you eat carbs which ones do you tend to eat?

Have you found that you are able to gain weight while
sticking to your exercise routine without carbs?

>Jim
Anyway, Phinney shows that carbs are unnecessary but
that you have to allow time for adaptation.  

Mike
Did he show that his subjects were able to gain weight
(muscle mass) while eating no carbs?  I seem to
remember that they were exercising on a treadmill, not
weight lifting.  

Mike
How much fat do you include in your diet?  What are
your sources of fat?  Personally, I find that after
eating no fruit or starches for a several days
(probably 4 on average) I have trouble.  In the past I
have included significant amount of olive oil (along
with eating red meat).  Olive oil doesn't seem to work
well for me.  My reliance on olive oil is in part
based on Rosedale's dietary recommendations.  I am
thinking that I need to increase saturated fat.  I
have allergy symptoms from egg and coconut and have
found the need to limit the amount of meat I eat. 
Therefore, I am experimenting a bit with ghee
(non-paleo, I know).  In part I am trying this because
of an account in Lutz's book about the under weight
guy who included significant amount of fat from dairy.
 (I can search through the book for the pages if you
are interested).  What do you do to make fats work for
you?

BTW do you know if Stephen Phinney is related to Davis
Phinney?  I read a book a while back (15 years ago)
authored by Davis Phinney who was a professional
cyclist.

Mike



 
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