On 9/12/07, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> well linda, for us old guys; we remember erring about
> every 25 years or so. in the 80's we were facing
> catastopic ice age fear. i remember a few friends an i
> planning a trip to belize to buy land becouse all of
> canada and the norther u.s. was going to be frozen
> tundra and the south was going to be like the midwest.
> the great climate was going to be central america.
> we'd have went and i'd have property in belize if our
> got had not got murdered on a trip down to paradise
> before he got to our trip.

So basically your argument here equates to "we were wrong once, so
there's no point in worrying this time"?

25 years ago the best computer models couldn't keep track of yearly
temperature fluctuations over a grid of anything less than a couple of
1000 miles, today the models are about 5000 times more powerful (in a
number of dimensions).  25 years ago we didn't have the temperature
data of the last 25 years. 25 years ago a very small number of
crackpots wrote about the potential for a new ice age, now we have
1000's of climate scientists telling us mankind has affected the
global climate.

Big differences.  Feel free to ignore them, but most of human kind is
finally waking up to the fact that we need to do something about this.

>
> i think those who think we'll destroy the planet gives
> man too much credit for power that we just don't have.
>

Mankind doesn't need to destroy the planet in order to severely screw
things up. Mankind has all the power he needs to affect weather
patterns, which can in turn destroy entire economies and social
systems. The planet will survive, mankind on the other hand will have
severe difficulties if we continue on our current path.

-- 
Peter Hunsberger

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