well, kat, i think some changes in strategy is in the
works. you'll note that bush is replacing rummy with
some one on the committee headed by baker and hamiton
whose report and suggestions for change are due to be
released this month. this tells me that the changes
suggested are going to be accepted or at least some of
them. i hope the reccommendations are something that
the whole country can rally around and get things to
the point that we can leave.  let me hasten to say
that i do not think for a minute that when we get out
of iraq even if they are able to defend themselves,
the war on radical islamic terror will not be over.
that one part will maybe be finished, but, the
terrorist are around the world and will still be
wanting to kill westerners. iraq being able to take
care of themselves and not being a haven of terrorist
will be a step in the right direction. we still have
iran trying to get an atomic bomb to use on isreal, we
still have north korea with a bomb and missles that
will reach hawaii, and trying to get to the point of
reaching san fran and L.A. AND the rest of the west
coast. terrorist within and without. i am afraid this
is a generation long fight like the cold war was
except it is going to be hot in spots and the spots
are going to move.  
--- Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> As of now, Webb is projected to win in VA.
> 
> I don't expect things to change dramatically,
> especially in Iraq,  
> because they can't.  Even the most anti-war Democrat
> can't  
> realistically bring the troops home tomorrow because
> we are so far  
> in, it would just make things worse. I sympathize
> with Cindy Sheehan  
> over the loss of her son but thinks she's being
> extremely short-sighted.
> 
> Kat
> 
> On 8 Nov 2006, at 22:25, ken barber wrote:
> 
> nope, just an observation.
> 
> i do not expect the recount to make a difference. va
> uses 100 percent electronic machines. they'll load
> in
> all the precient cards and the total should come up
> the same. the only possible difference would be in
> they had somehow loaded a precient twice by accident
> and that would not be highly likely. you got the
> senate too.
> 
> i think it is going to be interesting. it will no
> longer be enough to complain, now we get to see a
> plan. some things that polosi has in her first 100
> hour plan will help me. the minimun wage raise will
> put more money in my soms pocket which will mean
> less
> that i have to give him. and i do hope they follow
> through with the reforming of the lobbying thing
> promised. i don't know that all the 911 commission's
> recomendations can be implemented, but, i am sure
> many
> of them can be. and the democrats and bush are
> closer
> on their approach to a comprehensive immigration
> plan
> that bush was with his own party. and both say they
> are going to work on energy. it appears that there
> is
> quite a bit that can get dome.
>    of course we'll have to see if they all follow
> thru
> on the promise of working together, i have heard
> that
> same wind blow before.
>     i prayed for all of them last night that they'd
> do
> good for the country. it is my duty to pray for
> them.
>     a change is good every once in a while to keep
> down
> arrogance. that is something that the republican
> leaders had a bit too much of.
> 
> 
> --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Sour grapes, Ken? :)  Don't worry.  Virginia will
> > have a recount... and in
> > northern Virginia, some people allegedly received
> > phone calls trying to
> > misdirect them from their polling places or
> > otherwise keep them from voting.
> > Is there any truth to that rumor, Trish?
> >
> > I'd like to know what Rush Limbaugh thought.   I
> > guess I'll find out
> > tomorrow from my aide.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > ken barber
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:14 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Voting
> >
> > just an observation: since the democrats won, i
> see
> > no
> > charges of voter disinfranchisement, no charges of
> > fraud, etc, etc. hmmmm
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