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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Cerebral Palsy List <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:59:59 -0700
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i have a friend who was a parapalegic and is dead now,
but, he once talked about a time that his attendant
left him laying in his bed while a woman just
undressed him and had her way. he did not want me to
report it. i guess since he is gone now, i can relate
that. yes the disabled can very quickly be put at the
mercy of some people that will show none.  

--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think you should mention that. That's what I was
> responding to. The 
> disabled are particularly vulnerable. I worry about
> Case cause he is 
> taught to let therapists manipulate his body and so
> he is used to 
> adults poking and prodding him. He is very bright
> and articulate so I 
> think he will be ok.
> 
> At 06:02 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> >I shouldn't have mentioned my friend who was
> kidnapped, but some individuals
> >are vomable.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Anthony
> >Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> >Linda Walker
> >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:38 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> >
> >I wasn't responding to Mikes problem exactly. I was
> responding to
> >Anthonys thread which was more a general question
> about DD being
> >victimized and wondering what the correct thing is
> for a woman in
> >that position who may still be in the care of her
> parents. I think
> >Mike is being discriminated against the same as you
> do. It's just
> >that I work in the law and it is not that easy to
> file a federal
> >lawsuit but maybe there are non profit legal orgs
> that could help.
> >
> >At 04:32 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> > >am i missing some posts? is the woman that mike
> is
> > >wanting to see mentally disabled? or is this the
> girl
> > >anthony talked about being picked up and
> disapearing
> > >that you are referring to here?
> > >
> > >--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >          Yes that's what I was wondering about
> as
> > > > well. But then if
> > > > you have the maturity of a child but the
> > > > chronological age of an
> > > > adult do you have the right to engage in sex
> and
> > > > have fun as many
> > > > people do. I can see how parents would be
> upset
> > > > especially if
> > > > pregnancy is an issue and depending on their
> moral
> > > > values.
> > > > They used to sterilize people who were
> > > > developmentally delayed and I
> > > > am against that in every way. I think one
> reason
> > > > this was done was so
> > > > routine rape of these individuals would not be
> > > > noticed. We have
> > > > certainly been in the dark ages with a lot of
> our
> > > > thinking on this.
> > > >          It doesn't seem fair if a parent is
> the
> > > > guardian for a woman
> > > > with the mind of a girl to have to make a
> decision
> > > > about a child who
> > > > is conceived. Also I think these girls can be
> taken
> > > > advantage of.
> > > > It's a thorny problem and I just don't know
> the
> > > > answer. I can see how
> > > > this would overwhelm a family doing their best
> to
> > > > care for a disabled member.
> > > >          I also see no reason why the
> > > > developmentally delayed should
> > > > be denied exploring their sexuality. I also
> think
> > > > saying no could be
> > > > a problem for DD and so there is a lot of room
> for
> > > > exploitation here.
> > > >
> > > > At 03:11 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >Sometimes this is sticky, I know when I
> wanted to
> > > > get my first tattoo, they
> > > > >wouldn't give it to me before they knew I was
> > > > competent in making my own
> > > > >decisions, and I feel we have to realize that
> > > > there's some adults with
> > > > >disabilities who aren't, and it's our jobs to
> > > > protect them.  But however I'm
> > > > >willing to listen to other views, but my mom
> has a
> > > > friend who's son is
> > > > >mentally challenged, and I wouldn't leave him
> alone
> > > > for several hours like
> > > > >my parents can do with me.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Anthony
> > > > >Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > >ken barber
> > > > >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:11 PM
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> > > > >
> > > > >er, anthony, theres a difference in a grown
> man
> > > > >picking up and  molesting a teenager than for
> two
> > > > >adults in their 30's having a mutual
> relationship
> > > > with
> > > > >out the government or parents interferring.
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Anthony Arnold
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I must say I don't know what's being
> discussed
> > > > here,
> > > > > > but I want to throw out
> > > > > > something, but I'm not saying you would be
> > > > capable
> > > > > > of doing something like
> > > > > > this.  I personally know (or knew) a gal
> who
> > > > fitted
> > > > > > the MR/DD description,
> > > > > > and she was around my age, and she was the
> > > > typical
> > > > > > teenage girl who enjoyed
> > > > > > dressing hot and impressing guys, she
> usually
> > > > wore
> > > > > > tight clothing and high
> > > > > > heels.  Ten years ago this coming fall
> (hard to
> > > > > > believe), she was walking
> > > > > > home from somewhere, and it's believed
> that a
> > > > guy
> > > > > > offered her a ride home
> > > > > > and a good time, and she hasn't been seen
> since.
> > > > > > I'm not suggesting you
> > > > > > would, but knowing what they say happened
> to my
> > > > > > friend, I can honestly see
> > > > > > why they're concerned a little.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Anthony
> > > > > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > > > Magenta Raine
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:22 PM
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mental retardation/developmental
> disabilities
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > > > and
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> 
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