Ken,

The turn out for both the Republican and the Democratic parties in the
last Presidential election was the highest it's been in my memory (40
years).  I'm older than that, but I just missed the '60 election (not
born quite yet - missed it by three weeks), and not tall enough to turn
on the TV in '64.  As a matter of fact, Kerry would have had enough
votes to win in '04 had the Republicans not also increased the
percentage of their registered voters who actually voted.

Kendall 

An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.

-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950


-----Original Message-----
From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:20 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: an interesting article...anti Bush anti Utah anti religion
very offensive consider deleting

well, i do agree that more people need to vote. i'd
not noticed either party advising people that it is
better not to vote. but, i will look for that in the
future.

--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>          Whenever one party assumes control for a
> long time there is
> corruption. I am a life long Democrat and union
> activist. I do not
> understand poor people who are Republicans but that
> is an aside. In Hawaii
> the Democrats have had control for a long time and
> there is corruption. In
> Utah the Republicans have had control for a long
> time and there is
> corruption. Of the two types of corruption, I far
> prefer the Democratic.
>          This disaster like all disasters of this
> magnitude belongs in the
> hands of the President but he is too busy whacking
> golf balls and deciding
> how best to steal all the worlds oil for his
> friends. I don't like him or
> his policies.
>          I work on child abuse issues and
> specifically on the church child
> abuse lawsuits. In Utah the Supreme Court decided
> that a church, namely
> Mormon, cannot be held responsible for its negligent
> acts towards children.
> I have watched the Supreme Court of Utah make wrong
> decisions for over
> twenty five years. It is sad. This is also the state
> that allows, virtually
> promotes by their indifference, white slavery and
> the trafficking of young
> girls in the name of religion, polygamy. Oh yes Utah
> and the Mormons have
> their public relations arm that claims they are not
> responsible. That is a
> lie. They started polygamy  and have done nothing to
> stop it even though it
> was a requirement of statehood to do so.
>          It is quite upsetting to hear the Mormon
> commercials claiming how
> much they love children. They love them so much they
> move perpetrators
> around the country just like the Catholics and
> rarely report child abuse.
> These carefully crafted commercials simply appeal to
> peoples fear of rapid
> change and longing for an idealized past and are
> gauged to find more tithe
> payers. The Republican theme God is on our side also
> disgusts me. I hope
> the non voting Americans wake up soon from their fog
> that voting does not
> matter. It was also part of the Republican agenda to
> control Congress to
> disenfranchise voters by marketing the idea to the
> baby boom generation
> that not voting is the best policy since it's only a
> choice of the lesser
> of two evils. If more peopel voted Bush would have
> lost and I think he did
> lose anyhow but for the Diebold machines that
> cpatured the phony vote for
> him. I am very disappointed in every American who
> does not vote as the
> mandate in this country would certainly change if
> people started voting
> again. Oh yes and then we have to count them all.
> Whew! ! End of tirade.
> Back to gardening.
>
> Linda
>
> At 06:54 AM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
> >oh, okay. let's see, what party has been in control
> of
> >the State of La for 40-60 years? which party has
> been
> >in control of the city of New Orleans for 40-60
> years?
> >so who allowed the situtation to exist even though
> we
> >have spent more than 6 trillion dollars on the "WAR
> ON
> >POVERTY."? i think we need and exit stategy. we
> need a
> >time table to get out of this war. we have lost the
> >war. New Orleans showed this war lost.
> >
> >   the party starts with a "D."
> >
> >--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if I agree with this
> wholeheartedly.
> > > Just another post to get
> > > y'all talking...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Judge Roberts, Hurricane Katrina and Americans
> with
> > > Disabilities
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Building a Supreme Court to Excuse Our Nation's
> > > Neglect of the Poor and
> > > Disenfranchised
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By Jim Ward, Founder and President
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ADA Watch/National Coalition for Disability
> Rights
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > New Orleans is America's canary in the
> mineshaft.
> > > Ideologies of
> > > privatization that incapacitate effective
> government
> > > -permitting the
> > > privileged to save themselves while leaving the
> poor
> > > clinging to roofs -must
> > > now be challenged. This disaster is a chilling
> > > reminder of what happens when
> > > government fails to protect its citizens, and it
> is
> > > imperative that
> > > Americans demand accountability.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Terry Lynn Karl Professor of Political Science
> > > Stanford University September
> > > 8, 2005
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (Washington, DC) We did not see news reports on
> > > Hurricane Katrina showing
> > > mass looting by people with disabilities, did
> we?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Given the chance, perhaps this would have been
> so.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Instead, we witnessed people without legs
> -unable to
> > > reach the rooftops
> > > -floating in the storm waters; Americans in
> > > wheelchairs "rescued" and then
> > > left to fry and die in the scorching sun; people
> > > with epilepsy and diabetes
> > > separated from vital medications; and citizens
> in
> > > nursing homes left behind
> > > to drown.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And we saw many, many poor people.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Louisiana has a shameful poverty rate of 24
> percent.
> > > There and throughout
> > > the United States, people with disabilities are
> > > among the poorest of the
> > > poor. According to the 2000 Census, people with
> > > severe disabilities comprise
> > > roughly half of all working-age Americans living
> in
> > > poverty. A staggering
> > > one third of adults with disabilities live in
> > > households with total income
> > > of $15,000 or less.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hurricane Katrina has blown the cover off of
> > > America's crumbling physical
> > > infrastructure and our weakened ability to
> respond
> > > to the needs of even our
> > > most vulnerable citizens. Those quick to write
> off
>
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