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the "not in my backyard" reaction as in Nantucketcame
from those who scream the loudest about fossel fuel.
it's okay for there to be wind farms in other peoples
areas, but, don't "block my view."

--- Bobby Greer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Everyone gives lip service to alternative forms of
> energy. Wind turbines
> seem like a great source of energy,
> but then you have the "not in my backyard" reaction
> as in Nantucket. Nuclear
> sources should be used more
> but there are high risks of accidents. Hybrids are
> the most proomisin things
> on the horizon.IMHO.
>
> Bobby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: monster in the gulf. and a comment on
> "global warming. "
>
>
> > you make good points linda. we do need to be into
> > alturnatives. we need to be into wind, solar,
> nuclear,
> > hydrogen engines. we need to be in the hybrids
> market.
> > we need to conserve. that being said, we also need
> to
> > be into drilling for our own oil, we need to be
> into
> > clean ways to burn coal. we need to be into oil
> from
> > shale. it is estimated that oil shale in colorado
> and
> > i think wyoming could produce more oil than saudi
> > arabia.
> > many of these are oppsed by the political left.
> and as
> > we see in the case of off the coast of nantuckett,
> > they oppose wind farms when they are near to them.
> > people like john kennedy jr. critisize americans
> > driving suvs, but, then fly around in private jets
> > instead of flying commercially. really committed
> to
> > the cause. but i stray from the subject there. we
> > cannot just abandon oil before we get the
> alturnatives
> > in place.
> >
> >
> > --- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> I should have put some scientists think. It seems
> >> wiser to err on the side
> >> of caution in this debate than to simply say
> fossil
> >> fuel has nothing to do
> >> with it and go on as usual. It bothers me that
> >> Americans use such an
> >> enormous percentage of the worlds oil. If
> developing
> >> countries explore
> >> alternatives we could actually be left behind in
> the
> >> future and I know wind
> >> generation works well in many places. These
> >> resources are not emphasized or
> >> given appropriate developoment funding.  I too
> hope
> >> Texas is not as
> >> devastated as New Orleans and that everyone who
> >> needs to do so gets to high
> >> ground.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Linda
> >> At 03:36 PM 9/21/2005, you wrote:
> >> >   okay, yes, i see that she just said scientist
> >> >extremes of temperature and weather are a
> definite
> >> >part of it. the disagreements is the cause of
> the
> >> >extreams. according to which you believe are
> right
> >> on
> >> >the couses would determine if it matters one
> whit
> >> what
> >> >the president of the u.s. believes or for that
> >> matter
> >> >what any other human believes. if you believe
> the
> >> sun
> >> >is the major couse, then it matters not. if one
> >> hopes
> >> >the president believes in global warming then
> one
> >> >would deduct that the belief being stated was
> that
> >> >carbon fuels and hydrocarbons is the cause. here
> is
> >> >exactly where some scientists disagree. of
> course i
> >> >can not say which side has the most scientist
> >> >concuring.
> >> >
> >> >--- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Ken,
> >> > >
> >> > > Read Linda's post more carefully. Nowhere
> does
> >> it
> >> > > say "all scientists agree".
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > >
> >> > > Deri
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thursday 22 Sep 2005 01:09, ken barber
> wrote:
> >> > > > and still another one just to say thay "all
> >> > > scientist
> >> > > > agree" is not exactly right. clearly all
> >> scientist
> >> > > do
> >> > > > not agree.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1045327.stm
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> > > > > well, i statedc somescientific
> disagreements
> >> and
> >> > > was
> >> > > > > ask about my ostrich aditude. here is an
> >> article
> >> > > > > from
> >> > > > > the houston chronicle. read it all. it
> >> appears
> >> > > like
> >> > > > > i
> >> > > > > said that mars is experiencing the same
> >> warming
> >> > > > > trend.
> >> > > > > after you read it tell me who has been
> >> driving
> >> > > their
> >> > > > > suv's up there and tell me what is
> happening
> >> on
> >> > > > > mars.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >>
>
>>http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/space/3362746
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > --- "[log in to unmask]"
> >> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > Is it?  I'm not entirely convinced
> global
> >> > > warming
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > a major reason for the
> >> > > > > > hurricane cycle.  Remember that we have
> >> not
> >> > > been
> >> > > > > > able to measure weather
> >> > > > > > cycles for that long a period of human
> >> history
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > when
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > compared to the Earth's
> >> > > > > > history as a whole.  I'll agree it
> could
> >> be
> >> > > one of
> >> > > > > > the reasons, yes, but
> >> > > > > > not a major reason.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Kat
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Original Message:
> >> > > > > > -----------------
> >> > > > > > From: Linda Walker [log in to unmask]
> >> > > > > > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:27:59 -1000
> >> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: monster in the gulf.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I hope Bush starts believing in global
> >> warming
>
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