Amen Lyn isn't it wonderful that we do not have to speak the words but God speaks them for us. Use his word everytime and you can never loose.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter '74
-KC- Ministries
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From: Lyn Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
> The only think I can say about this one is that Jesus told the people who
> asked who sinned that no one sinned in that case, but also we know that
> somehow someone does suffer for all of that sin. But the scripture tells us
> that we all have a chance to come unto repentance. I think sometimes if we
> get caught up in the sin of our families and the generational curses that
> can happen, Satan gets a chance to throw those fiery darts that Ephesians
> talks about, and we can quickly forget the awesome God that we serve whose
> death forgave us when he said, "It is finished.
> 23But they were insistent and urgent, demanding with loud cries that He
> should be crucified. And their voices prevailed (accomplished their
> purpose).
>
> 24And Pilate gave sentence, that what they asked should be done.
>
> 25So he released the man who had been thrown into prison for riot and
> murder, for whom they continued to ask, but Jesus he delivered up to be done
> with
> as they willed.
>
> 26And as they led Him away, they seized one Simon of Cyrene, who was
> coming in from the country, and laid on him the cross and made him carry it
> behind
> Jesus.
>
> 27And there accompanied [Jesus] a great multitude of the people,
> [including] women who bewailed and lamented Him.
>
> 28But Jesus, turning toward them, said, Daughters of Jerusalem, do not
> weep for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children.
>
> 29For behold, the days are coming during which they will say, Blessed
> (happy, fortunate, and [
> g]
> to be envied) are the barren, and the wombs that have not borne, and the
> breasts that have never nursed [babies]!
>
> 30Then they will begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us! and to the
> hills, Cover (conceal, hide) us!
>
> 31For if they do these things when the timber is green, what will happen
> when it is dry?
>
> 32Two others also, who were criminals, were led away to be executed with
> Him.(
> C)
>
> 33And when they came to the place which is called The Skull [Latin:
> Calvary; Hebrew: Golgotha], there they crucified Him, and [along with] the
> criminals,
> one on the right and one on the left.
>
> 34And Jesus prayed, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they
> do. 40But the other one reproved him, saying, Do you not even fear God,
> seeing you yourself are under the same sentence of condemnation and
> suffering the
> same penalty?
>
> 41And we indeed suffer it justly, receiving the due reward of our
> actions; but this Man has done nothing out of the way [nothing [
> n]
> strange or eccentric or perverse or unreasonable].
>
> 42Then he said to Jesus, Lord, remember me when You come [
> o]
> in Your kingly glory!
>
> 43And He answered him, Truly I tell you, today you shall be with Me in
> Paradise.45While the sun's light faded or [
> p]
> was darkened; and the curtain [of the Holy of Holies] of the temple was torn
> in two.(
> F)
>
> 46And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, Father, into Your hands
> I commit My spirit! And with these words, He expired.
> I know I included a lot of scriptures here, but if we look at these passages
> we find that in the tearing in half of the vale, we are able without a
> priest or the blood on the mercy seat to go directly to Jesus and ask his
> forgivemess realizing that for our sins there are consequences, but God's
> grace and mercy forgives even though he might reprove us. I hope I didn't
> say too much, but this spoke volumes to my spirit. Thanks for having this
> discussion, and thanks Dave for showing me Bible Gateway.
> For unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
>
>
> > Children do suffer the consequences of a parent's sin. Look at all the
> > crack babies and the babies with aids. It may not be nice to think of but
> > it is true never the less. Our entire family does suffer when one of us
> > sins in some way.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >
> >
> >> No. Man is responsible for his own sin. If we were blind for someone
> > elses sin everyone in the world would be handicapped in someway. There is
> > a
> > verse that says all man are responsible for his own sin. I know in the
> > old
> > testimentbefore Jesus there were generational curses but Jesus wiped that
> > all away. I know there are those of you who know where the appropriate
> > verses are. We were born early due to the consiquences of our mothers
> > drinking and such but not because of sin. I know drinking is a sin but
> > God
> > would not punish us for it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> > there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out
> > there
> > is
> >>
> >> IN GOD WE TRUST
> >> Karen Carter '74
> >> -KC- Ministries
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Perhaps we were just predestined to be blind ha ha. Seriously, though,
> >> > don't you thing blindness can be just a consequence of a previous
> >> > action
> > or
> >> > condition of our parents? My mother was malnourished as a child
> >> > because
> > my
> >> > grandparents were very poor. She also smoked and drank while she
> > carried
> >> > me. She never had any prenatal care till I threatened to get out of
> > there
> >> > altogether by miscarrying. Then she went up to Cleveland where there
> > were
> >> > doctors who could help her. They did their best to keep me from coming
> > to
> >> > soon but I did at 26 weeks along. My mother told me the doctor gave
> >> > her
> >> > medication to try to keep me in the womb even on Sundays at his office.
> > My
> >> > being born prematurely is what caused my blindness. This is a mere
> >> > consequence of all the hardships my mother had to endure and of the
> >> > care
> > she
> >> > took of herself prior to my being born. Many times people don't manage
> >> > properly their diabetes or something which leads to consequences.
> >> > Don't
> > you
> >> > think this could be true?
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:25 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Kathy,
> >> > >
> >> > > You wrote...
> >> > > "Why is it easier to believe that God can cure a back ache or a head
> > ache
> >> > > that can't be seen and is totally subjective and not my eyes, which
> > would
> >> > > actually require physical reconstruction?"
> >> > >
> >> > > Bingo sister! It is curious too why, and perhaps it is me only, that
> > we
> >> > > hear of folks being healed of one leg longer than the other and not
> > one
> >> > > like us with an obvious life changing ailment??? Why is that or is it
> > just
> >> > > me? Also you are right in saying many walk away looking at our's or
> >> > other's
> >> > > situations "Gee I'm thankful I'm not in that situation". I did even
> > see
> >> > > some of that in the devotion Rhonda posted. It is sooooo easy for
> > people
> >> > to
> >> > > say "God has blessed you with the ability to handle your situation,
> >> > > praise and glory to him who gave you patience and look all you
> > learned
> >> > > from this situation", and then they hop in their car and drive
> >> > > home. Granted I bet we do the same with those we feel have harder
> > cards
> >> > to
> >> > > play in life. It is a different perspective when someone with an
> >> > > affliction gives glory for the illness, but to me, and I reluctantly
> > say
> >> > > anything here as I said I don't want to pull at anyone's beliefs that
> >> > > enable them to cope, but I can't see glory in that either. Perhaps
> > I'm
> >> > > not spiritually mature to that point yet, maybe that's it. I do
> > however
> >> > see
> >> > > a gigantic opportunity for people to see God's glory in my healing.
> >> > > I
> >> > know
> >> > > many blind vendors here in WI, plus having been blind for sometime
> > now,
> >> > > gotten to know many blind folks, and of course we become pegged as
> >> > > the
> >> > > blind guy who does this or does that by sighted folks, and then of
> > course
> >> > > our relatives, think of that impact. I wonder what they'd do or say
> >> > > or
> >> > > wonder if they saw me driving next week, looking them square in the
> > eye,
> >> > > waving and smiling hahaha? Now there's opportunity for glory. And you
> > know
> >> > > what? Isn't that what Jesus meant and demonstrated with the blind guy
> > when
> >> > > the disciples asked him who sinned this man or his parents? And Jesus
> > said
> >> > > neither but for the glory of God, then he spit in mud, swiped his
> >> > > eyes
> > and
> >> > > said wash off dude and you'll be flashing them baby blues. And didn't
> > the
> >> > > blind man give credit to Jesus? Who in turn gave credit to the
> >> > > Father? Perhaps I am a bit *snapping fingers* what's the word I'm
> > looking
> >> > > for... rebellious? Brash? No no, I don't know the word, upfront
> >> > > maybe??? anyway it is almost rather than to say God wills me this
> > way
> >> > and
> >> > > get's glory out of it, I can't help not hiding my thoughts in
> > saying
> >> > "OK
> >> > > God. Point blank here, no more games, no more fooling around with
> >> > > this
> >> > > thing. Do you heal or don't you? And if so, why not me so I can fix
> > what
> >> > is
> >> > > out of your will and move on with the life you given me in a way I
> >> > > was
> >> > > originally equipped to do! If you don't then I know the score and
> >> > > I'll
> >> > fall
> >> > > in place and accept that." I don't mean that disrespectfully, but I
> > also
> >> > > can't feel one way and hide it from him. That's just foolishness.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brad
> >
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