Good question Karen... let's have a little list nostalgia. lol.
Brad
At 06:11 AM 2/14/2006 +0000, you wrote:
>When did e-church get started and how were the first members? Just
>interested in how things come about.
>
>--
>I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
>there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
>
>IN GOD WE TRUST
>Karen Carter '74
>-KC- Ministries
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
> > Cathy,
> > I think after all these years of reading your posts, I wouldn't mix you up
> > with anyone. Why, you are the forthright, honest caring Christian with
> the
> > soap opera life story. Maybe, since I do not own a tv, maybe soap
> opera is
> > the wrong word. Anyway, we know it's pure nonfiction.
> > I also have to say you are the only Kathy du bois I have ever met, neither
> > have I ever met a Greg, Matthew, Christopher, or Elizabeth Du bois.
> > I'm glad our father knows more than our names.
> > My wife found one of those name books that the library was giving away,
> > recently..
> > One of the nutty stories in the book was that a psome crazy parents gave
> > their six children the same name. They all were trained to respond to
> their
> > numbers--1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
> > Can you believe that.?
> > Vinny
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:02 PM
> > Subject: a great story of mix ups
> >
> >
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> > >
> > > A story of mix ups
> > >
> > > Okay everybody, mix-ups don't just happen in hospitals. While Greg
> > > and I lived in Menominee Michigan, we were involved in some of the
> > > most confusing mix-ups that I ever hope to go through. Here are the
> > > highlights.
> > > In 1984, we moved to Menominee where I had been hired to be a teacher
> > > for the intermediate school district, working with the mentally
> > > impaired. As soon as we arrived in the community, we began church
> > > shopping and settled on a church in the area that we really
> > > liked. We jumped in with both feet, because that's just kind of the
> > > way we are, so we became known pretty quickly by the pastor and the
> > > congregation. Unfortunately, we have never been able to receive the
> > > local paper. We just always felt that other things were more
> > > important to pay for and all we usually do with the paper is go
> > > through the comics and do the crossword puzzle. It just isn't worth
> > > the subscription cost. Anyway, imagine our surprise about a month
> > > after our involvement in the church when the pastor pulled us aside
> > > and asked us if the congregation could expect a lot of trouble from
> > > us. We had no clue what he was talking about, so he showed us the
> > > article in the paper.
> > > Evidently, a man named, Greg Du Bois, (unfortunately for us no
> > > address was given), was in the paper for some funny dealings in the
> > > tree industry. I believe that it was in the court reports and his
> > > brother was involved as well. We assured him that it wasn't us and
> > > hoped that it was the end of the matter, but it was just the beginning.
> > > While I was pregnant with Matthew, another lady began attending the
> > > same church with a five-year-old son. Her name was Kathy Du Bois and
> > > her son's name was Christopher. She joined the choir and we got to
> > > know each other some. Her husband's name was Glen, so we didn't
> > > think much of it as far as being another matter of confusion. By the
> > > way, Glen did not attend church so now; it was just to two Kathy's
> > > who was a confusing matter.
> > > About a year later, I gave birth to a Christopher of my own. I
> > > didn't think anything of giving him that name because we and the
> > > other Kathy didn't associate much. Anyway, We had Chris in Greenbay
> > > and we chose to leave within twelve hours of his birth so they were
> > > not able to administer his PKU test. A baby needs to be more than
> > > three days old for this test to be accurate. We took our Christopher
> > > to our local hospital when he was around five days old to have the
> > > PKU test administered and, instead of beginning a new file on our
> > > Christopher, they pulled up this other Christopher's file and said,
> > > "Oh yes, didn't he fall out of a tree a few days ago and break his
> > > arm?" Unfortunately, Chris had not fallen out of a tree. He had
> > > fallen out of me and nothing was broken, but we learned that we were
> > > both using the same pediatrician.
> > > Well, life went on and after a while, there was news of a break in at
> > > a local drug store by, a Du Bois. We were visited by the
> > > police. They wanted us to tell us about Greg's brother Glen. What a
> > > mess.
> > > Then, the police showed up at our door a few months later. They were
> > > really looking for my Greg this time because a student loan from way
> > > back in his own drug days, before he became a Christian had not been
> > > paid and the government was there to collect. We didn't know
> > > anything about this bill because they had been sending collection
> > > notices to Menominee Mississippi, but that didn't seem to help us
> > > much. Fortunately, the bill was only about $300 and how that got
> > > paid off is another miraculous story that I won't bother to take a
> > > detour to tell here, but it is pretty good, none the less. Anyway,
> > > the police were at my door and Greg was on the beach, about four
> > > blocks away, with Matthew, who was, I think two, at the time, so I
> > > really panicked because I had no idea what they wanted.
> > > Eventually, we got all the mess straightened around and we thought
> > > that life was good until I received a call one day from a financial
> > > planner congratulating me on the birth of my twins. I gasped and
> > > stuttered. Then, the man on the other end said, "Aren't you Kathy Du
> > > Bois?"
> > > I replied that I was. "And isn't your husband Greg?"
> > > I confirmed that he was, but I assured him that I hadn't had twins
> > > lately and I thought that I should know. As we talked, I learned
> > > that, evidently, the person who had been involved in the illegal
> > > dealings at the beginning of this missive had married a girl named
> > > Kathy and they had been blessed with twins. All I could say over and
> > > over was "Thank you Lord It's not me." Unfortunately, now, there
> > > were at least Three Kathy Du Bois in Menominee county and all of us
> > > had kids and some of us were shady characters.
> > > We thought that our problems were over when we finally left Menominee
> > > county and moved to Grand Rapids so that Greg could finish up his
> > > under Graduate work. Imagine our surprise about a month after moving
> > > when we received a letter from a lawyer assuring us that the suit
> > > against Greg's mother would probably succeed and we could look
> > > forward to about $75,000 in profit from the proceedings. I think
> > > that a simple phone call straightened that one up, but I can't
> > > remember for sure right now.
> > > When we moved to Grand Rapids, I was pregnant with Elizabeth who was
> > > born on February 8. We were so happy to have a daughter, but,
> > > unfortunately, attending our church at the same time were two other
> > > ladies who gave birth within the ten days before Liz was born. Both
> > > children were girls, the first girl in their family and each had two
> > > older brothers, just like Elizabeth. To make matters worse, the
> > > first girl was named Elisa and the other girl was Emily. We were
> > > often getting called out of church for the wrong baby so, to really
> > > have fun with the mess, we decided to have all three girls dedicated
> > > on the same day with all the brothers in tow just to create a
> > > scene. The worst part is when the pastor reached to take our sweet
> > > daughter, who was about two months old at the time, into his arms and
> > > she grabbed his mike and decided to begin screaming. She hadn't
> > > wanted to be taken away from her mother, I guess. Anyway, she's the
> > > only child I know of whom had to be removed from her own dedication
> > > because no one else could hear anything!
> > > Nothing more really happened after that until we moved to
> > > Maine. About a year after we moved hear, I received a call from a
> > > lady telling me that her name was Kathy Du Bois and, she was afraid
> > > that our prescriptions had been mixed up because we both use the same
> > > pharmacy. Fortunately, I don't take any drugs, so I was able to put
> > > her mind at ease. We had probably had a prescription filled for
> > > antibiotics for one of the kids or something. Anyway, she felt that
> > > there was a mix up. I believe that her son was a Christopher too,
> > > if I'm not mistaken.
> > > And, if I had been writing this a month ago, I probably would have
> > > thought that that was the end of the story, but thanks to my 9 year
> > > old, Caleb, we've learned of even another Kathy dubois since
> > > then. Caleb wanted to do the shopping. He was given the list and
> > > given very strict instructions to find us after he had collected
> > > things and that he was not to go through the check out line without
> > > us. Imagine our surprise, as Greg and I were just strolling around
> > > and wasting time while Caleb was trying to be a big boy, when we
> > > heard our names announced over the loud speaker and ordered to report
> > > to the front of the store immediately. It sounded like we were in
> > > trouble. I stayed in one place, thinking that Caleb might be
> > > lost. Our thought was that one of us should stay put and visible so
> > > that Caleb could find us easily. It just made sense that I got to be
> > > the lucky one to stay put. Oh goody! Well, Greg whisked passed the
> > > deli section toward the front just in time to over here a
> > > conversation between two ladies. The one was saying, "Well they
> > > said, Kathy Du Bois should report to the front of the store." The
> > > other woman, left the counter, rather confused, and mumbling, 'I
> > > wonder why." Yes folks, another Kathy Du Bois had been flushed out
> > > of hiding!
> > > OH, before I leave this point, I suppose you are wondering why we
> > > were paged? Well, our son did not follow instructions and had
> > > wracked up a bill that had to be paid for. Everyone had to patiently
> > > wait behind this 9-year-old who had no money while is, seemingly
> > > errant parents were out bumming. Have you ever wanted to crawl in a
> > > whole? The whole line of customers was full of praise for how well
> > > Caleb handled the situation and how adult he was. But, they had
> > > nothing but daggers for Greg for making them wait. When I found out
> > > what really happened, I have to admit that I was glad to be the
> > > parent who was elected to stay put. No one ever
> > > knew! Haha! Brother. I guess that we'll never win. Anyway, it all
> > > ended up okay.
> > > Now, are all of you confused? I had thought all along that Jones and
> > > Smith were the most common names. I just find myself praising my
> > > heavenly Father that He knows who I am, no matter what! And that,
> > > while man may be confused, He will never be.
> > > Kathy
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> > > <font size=3D4>A story of mix ups<br><br>
> > > Okay everybody, mix-ups don=92t just happen in hospitals. While
> Greg
> > > and I lived in Menominee Michigan, we were involved in some of the most
> > > confusing mix-ups that I ever hope to go through. Here are the
> > > highlights.<br>
> > > In 1984, we moved to Menominee where I had been hired to be a teacher for
> > > the intermediate school district, working with the mentally
> > > impaired. As soon as we arrived in the community, we began church
> > > shopping and settled on a church in the area that we really liked.
> > > We jumped in with both feet, because that=92s just kind of the way we
> are,
> > > so we became known pretty quickly by the pastor and the
> > > congregation. Unfortunately, we have never been able to receive the
> > > local paper. We just always felt that other things were more
> > > important to pay for and all we usually do with the paper is go through
> > > the comics and do the crossword puzzle. It just isn=92t worth the
> > > subscription cost. Anyway, imagine our surprise about a month after
> > > our involvement in the church when the pastor pulled us aside and asked
> > > us if the congregation could expect a lot of trouble from us. We
> > > had no clue what he was talking about, so he showed us the article in the
> > > paper.<br>
> > > Evidently, a man named, Greg Du Bois, (unfortunately for us no address
> > > was given), was in the paper for some funny dealings in the tree
> > > industry. I believe that it was in the court reports and his
> > > brother was involved as well. We assured him that it wasn=92t
> us and
> > > hoped that it was the end of the matter, but it was just the
> > > beginning.<br>
> > > While I was pregnant with Matthew, another lady began attending the same
> > > church with a five-year-old son. Her name was Kathy Du Bois and her
> > > son=92s name was Christopher. She joined the choir and we got to
> > > know
> > > each other some. Her husband=92s name was Glen, so we didn=92t
> think
> > > much of it as far as being another matter of confusion. By the way,
> > > Glen did not attend church so now; it was just to two Kathy=92s who was a
> > > confusing matter. <br>
> > > About a year later, I gave birth to a Christopher of my own. I
> > > didn=92t think anything of giving him that name because we and the other
> > > Kathy didn=92t associate much. Anyway, We had Chris in Greenbay and
> > > we chose to leave within twelve hours of his birth so they were not able
> > > to administer his PKU test. A baby needs to be more than three days
> > > old for this test to be accurate. We took our Christopher to our
> > > local hospital when he was around five days old to have the PKU test
> > > administered and, instead of beginning a new file on our Christopher,
> > > they pulled up this other Christopher=92s file and said, =93Oh yes,
> > > didn=92t=
> > > he
> > > fall out of a tree a few days ago and break his arm?=94
> > > Unfortunately, Chris had not fallen out of a tree. He had fallen
> > > out of me and nothing was broken, but we learned that we were both using
> > > the same pediatrician. <br>
> > > Well, life went on and after a while, there was news of a break in at a
> > > local drug store by, a Du Bois. We were visited by the
> > > police. They wanted us to tell us about Greg=92s brother
> Glen.
> > > What a mess. <br>
> > > Then, the police showed up at our door a few months later. They
> > > were really looking for my Greg this time because a student loan from way
> > > back in his own drug days, before he became a Christian had not been paid
> > > and the government was there to collect. We didn=92t know anything
> > > about this bill because they had been sending collection notices to
> > > Menominee Mississippi, but that didn=92t seem to help us much.
> > > Fortunately, the bill was only about $300 and how that got paid off is
> > > another miraculous story that I won=92t bother to take a detour to tell
> > > here, but it is pretty good, none the less. Anyway, the police were
> > > at my door and Greg was on the beach, about four blocks away, with
> > > Matthew, who was, I think two, at the time, so I really panicked because
> > > I had no idea what they wanted. <br>
> > > Eventually, we got all the mess straightened around and we thought that
> > > life was good until I received a call one day from a financial planner
> > > congratulating me on the birth of my twins. I gasped and
> > > stuttered. Then, the man on the other end said, =93Aren=92t you
> > > Kathy
> > > Du Bois?=94<br>
> > > I replied that I was. =93And isn=92t your husband Greg?=94<br>
> > > I confirmed that he was, but I assured him that I hadn=92t had twins
> > > lately
> > > and I thought that I should know. As we talked, I learned that,
> > > evidently, the person who had been involved in the illegal dealings at
> > > the beginning of this missive had married a girl named Kathy and they had
> > > been blessed with twins. All I could say over and over was =93Thank
> > > you Lord It=92s not me.=94 Unfortunately, now, there were at least
> > > Three Kathy Du Bois in Menominee county and all of us had kids and some
> > > of us were shady characters.<br>
> > > We thought that our problems were over when we finally left Menominee
> > > county and moved to Grand Rapids so that Greg could finish up his under
> > > Graduate work. Imagine our surprise about a month after moving when
> > > we received a letter from a lawyer assuring us that the suit against
> > > Greg=92s mother would probably succeed and we could look forward to about
> > > $75,000 in profit from the proceedings. I think that a simple phone
> > > call straightened that one up, but I can=92t remember for sure right
> > > now.<br>
> > > When we moved to Grand Rapids, I was pregnant with Elizabeth who was born
> > > on February 8. We were so happy to have a daughter, but,
> > > unfortunately, attending our church at the same time were two other
> > > ladies who gave birth within the ten days before Liz was born. Both
> > > children were girls, the first girl in their family and each had two
> > > older brothers, just like Elizabeth. To make matters worse, the
> > > first girl was named Elisa and the other girl was Emily. We were
> > > often getting called out of church for the wrong baby so, to really have
> > > fun with the mess, we decided to have all three girls dedicated on the
> > > same day with all the brothers in tow just to create a scene. The
> > > worst part is when the pastor reached to take our sweet daughter, who was
> > > about two months old at the time, into his arms and she grabbed his mike
> > > and decided to begin screaming. She hadn=92t wanted to be taken
> away
> > > from her mother, I guess. Anyway, she=92s the only child I know of
> > > whom had to be removed from her own dedication because no one else could
> > > hear anything!<br>
> > > Nothing more really happened after that until we moved to Maine.
> > > About a year after we moved hear, I received a call from a lady telling
> > > me that her name was Kathy Du Bois and, she was afraid that our
> > > prescriptions had been mixed up because we both use the same
> > > pharmacy. Fortunately, I don=92t take any drugs, so I was able to
> > > put
> > > her mind at ease. We had probably had a prescription filled for
> > > antibiotics for one of the kids or something. Anyway, she felt that
> > > there was a mix up. I believe that her son was a
> > > Christopher too, if I=92m not mistaken.<br>
> > > And, if I had been writing this a month ago, I probably would have
> > > thought that that was the end of the story, but thanks to my 9 year old,
> > > Caleb, we=92ve learned of even another Kathy dubois since then.
> > > Caleb
> > > wanted to do the shopping. He was given the list and given very
> > > strict instructions to find us after he had collected things and that he
> > > was not to go through the check out line without us. Imagine our
> > > surprise, as Greg and I were just strolling around and wasting time while
> > > Caleb was trying to be a big boy, when we heard our names announced over
> > > the loud speaker and ordered to report to the front of the store
> > > immediately. It sounded like we were in trouble. I stayed in
> > > one place, thinking that Caleb might be lost. Our thought was that
> > > one of us should stay put and visible so that Caleb could find us easily.
> > > It just made sense that I got to be the lucky one to stay put. Oh
> > > goody! Well, Greg whisked passed the deli section toward the
> > > front just in time to over here a conversation between two ladies.
> > > The one was saying, =93Well they said, Kathy Du Bois should report to the
> > > front of the store.=94 The other woman, left the counter, rather
> > > confused, and mumbling, =91I wonder why.=94 Yes folks,
> > > another Kathy Du Bois had been flushed out of hiding! <br>
> > > OH, before I leave this point, I suppose you are wondering why we were
> > > paged? Well, our son did not follow instructions and had wracked up
> > > a bill that had to be paid for. Everyone had to patiently wait
> > > behind this 9-year-old who had no money while is, seemingly errant
> > > parents were out bumming. Have you ever wanted to crawl in a
> > > whole? The whole line of customers was full of praise for how
> > > well Caleb handled the situation and how adult he was. But, they
> > > had nothing but daggers for Greg for making them wait. When I found out
> > > what really happened, I have to admit that I was glad to be the parent
> > > who was elected to stay put. No one ever knew!
> > > Haha! Brother. I guess that we=92ll never win. Anyway,
> > > it
> > > all ended up okay.<br>
> > > Now, are all of you confused? I had thought all along that Jones and
> > > Smith were the most common names. I just find myself praising my
> > > heavenly Father that He knows who I am, no matter what! And that,
> > > while man may be confused, He will never be.<br>
> > > Kathy<br>
> > > </font></body>
> > > </html>
> > >
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> > >
Brad
To forgive is to set the prisoner free, and then discover the prisoner
was you
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