In the Old Testament days, if you had a rebellious child that was not able 
to be handled, the parents turned them over to the city elders and they 
stoned them. That is a bit drastic and illegal I might add hehehe. But yes 
a firm  disobedience calls for a firm hand, while yet sometimes mistakes 
call for an understanding  helping hand. The thing is with us as parents 
here. At 18 or so we are released from legal duty of parenting, and of 
course are always there for our kids but our upbringing and discipline 
stops while God has to continue to whip his kids in shape until they show 
up at his doorstep one day. Imagine having to spank your 70 year old kid?

Brad



At 08:52 PM 2/12/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>It's like it says in the Bible, our father disciplined us according to what
>they wanted or thought best, but God does it for our profit.  I'm so glad He
>knows when to spank and when not to!
>
>Sharon

Brad

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