Yes he is.  But I don't want him to have a criminal record.  What if he
wants to get a job while he is a juvenile?  Would that not be hard for him?
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: The latest from Chris


> Angel,
> Isn't your son only 15?  I was there and done that too.  One thing
> that you do still have on your side is the juvenile system.  Don't be
> afraid to press charges if you find that he is doing something
> illegal.  Sometimes the courts can come along side and enforce help
> that he would refuse at your suggestion.  While I admit that it was
> depressing to learn how disfunctional the juvenile system is, I
> believe that having that extra muscle  back of  us kept Chris from
> getting more involved with drugs and so forth than if we had done
> nothing.  It at least applied the breaks enough so that we could get
> him to age 18 in relative safety.  It also let him know that we meant
> business and, to this day, he knows that we take right and wrong
> seriously, even if he doesn't like it.  Too bad.  I'm going to have
> to answer to a higher power than him and that's what matters.
> Kathy
>
>
> At 12:41 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:
> >I can't offer any advice as I know what you are going through first hand
so
> >to speak.  I will say I understand how hard it is for you as a mother to
> >watch your son make the sad mistakes he is making and to allow him to
make
> >those mistakes.  It take a special strength to do this.  I question my
own
> >strength when it comes to allowing my own son the freedom to totally
screw
> >up even though I know it might be the rite thing.  I will pray for you
that
> >you might continue on in that special strength that only Our Lord can
give.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: The latest from Chris
> >
> >
> > > Amen Kathy.  It is your love that can allow you to let him go through
it.
> >It hurts to see him make the wrong decissions but you love him enough to
> >want him to learn and grow through them.  And like you say if you keep
> >rescueing him you are allowing him to stay in his ways and not grow.   So
> >you are a great Mother and doing what is right.  Helping your child to
see
> >the real world and he will become a much better adult because of it.
Even
> >if he chooses to stay on the wrong path he will have the wisdom to
survive
> >in the jungle instead of being eaten up.  I know my brother was the saem
> >way.  But I don't think Chris will stay on the wrong path all his life.
> >Because like says If you raise a child in the ways he should go.  He will
> >return unto it.  And Chris was raised in a christain home under the word
so
> >he will eventually return to it.  Unfortunately my brother and I were not
> >raised in a Christain home.  And that is why he is still out their and I
can
> >only pray to God that he gets saved before it is to late.
> > >
> > > --
> > > I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> >there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out
there
> >is
> > >
> > > IN GOD WE TRUST
> > > Karen Carter  '74
> > > -KC- Ministries
> > >
> > >
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Brad,
> > > >          chris can't come home.  Not yet.  He would be lucky if he
> > > > graduated from high school next year at the rate that he is going.
I
> > > > have an idea that eventually he will end up on the street.  that's
> > > > when I am going to need everybody's prayers for strength more than
> > > > ever.  What parent ever wants to see a child go through that;
> > > > especially when it would be so easy to rescue him from it, but
> > > > Proverbs warns us that if you rescue a hot tempered man, you'll just
> > > > have to do it again.  I want the cycle to break and that is what
> > > > keeps me going.  Besides, I have peace in my home now and I don't
> > > > want to give that up.  Protecting Caleb and Liz helps to give me the
> > > > strength to continue saying "NO!"  But also, my love of Chris and my
> > > > knowledge of what truly is best for him, is also a source of
strength.
> > > > Thanks for praying!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 11:25 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > >He is finding out his actions and decisions might be taken in
stride by
> > > > >himself, but very serious by others around him. Personally? And
this is
> >my
> > > > >own view, before I'd take Chris back, I'd not even consider it
until he
> >has
> > > > >decided  he just can't stand it there no more, not one more day,
let
> >him
> > > > >really feel why that is, the lifestyle, the value system,
everything,
> >and
> > > > >then when he  has really had it, fed up to the gills? Then I'd
suggest
> >him
> > > > >looking at his budget and how he can fund an apartment of his own
or go
> >in
> > > > >with some buddies on one, either that or learn to get along with
Nikki
> >and
> > > > >family.  From all I've been exposed to in the saga of Chris'
ventures,
> > > > >which no doubt there are tons I don't know, I really can't see how
> >Chris
> > > > >could possibly learn responsibility of independence and etc and to
> >respect
> > > > >his family and provision, without having to have learned that for
> >himself.
> > > > >This would be a great tool in getting him to the plate with  the
bat
> >ready
> > > > >to hit the pitches life has given him and the  game he chose to
enter.
> >He's
> > > > >got what four months until he is out of high  school? Provided he
> > > > >graduates... I'm not certain of your confidence in that based off
your
> > > > >report of school. The long and short of my point is, take him back
now
> >or
> > > > >even if he looks like he has made some changes, and based off your
> >passed
> > > > >recounts of his behavior, he'll be 25 years old and still living at
> >home
> > > > >hanging with the guys. Desperation creates innovation. How many
times
> >in
> > > > >life have we been faced with very tough situations and decisions,
many
> >of
> > > > >which had nothing to do with our own choosing, and it was working
> >through
> > > > >that situation which made us stronger and confident in life? Oh
Lord,
> > > > >*looking upwards* don't take that as a plea for hard times for any
of
> >us
> > > > >hahahaah. But it is true nonetheless. I am in the midst of such a
> >lesson
> > > > >with my son, but he is learning and showing signs of
responsibility. I
> > > > >bailed him out once financially but not this time and he is forced
to
> >deal
> > > > >with those he  deals with, the bank, credit card, etc. How can they
> >learn
> > > > >to appreciate the help they've been given if not had to fend for
> >themselves
> > > > >first hand. That is my 1and a half cents worth.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad