Joe,

Joe you wrote: "At the end of the day, our goal should be to get rid of Yaya 
and that is the only energy I have left in my tank for now."

I have to quote you in your respond to Sanusi. I think you have hit the nail 
in the head now. This is exactly how every Gambian should feel and do 
something about it. This is what I call positive anger that makes you feel 
sick in the stomach. The anger that force you to get up and do something 
about a very bad situation. The issues you raised are the same thing people 
are raising back home; The Gambian today is very different from the Gambian 
before. They are alert, politics is discussed at every level, and you will 
really be surprised. People will tell you openly that Jammeh will rig the 
elections and this is a headache for the people. I was really amazed by the 
people’s determination and zeal to get rid of Jammeh. Of course there is 
still the fear of being arrested and kill because people are very much aware 
that a lot of killings are going on.  I guess there should also be vigilance 
report, you will be surprised the information you will get and the leads to 
follow.

I raised the issue of the possibility to register the voters again in a more 
sophisticated manner. The Ghanaian case is the best at hand, the whole 
country was re-registered, it was a boring exercise for everyone but it paid 
off. After the exercise more than a million voters where discovered to be 
unqualified voters whom Rawlings brought from the neighboring Togo to vote. 
When these exercise was on going the borders were closed, people who where 
eligible to vote were given enough notice to cross and register. The voting 
cards and process of registration was very sophisticated even though the 
Rawlings camp was crying foul. The electoral commissioner was the same 
person sent to help in the Liberian election. They guy was a hard rock to 
crack.

I guess we should kick start the debate what can we do to help the 
opposition, if we all agree here that the goal is to get rid of Jammeh.  We 
have only a month to go and it is never too late.


Despite this I still have the hope even if the opposition gets the majority 
in parliament; it will be enough to vote him out through parliament. Even if 
he rigs and come back the struggle continues!!! It took Ghana 20 years to 
get rid of Rawlings|, we don't want to go that far but we have the energy 
and drive to continue as long as our people are held hostage.

The Struggle Continues!!!
Ndey Jobarteh





>From: Joe Sambou Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list       
>         To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: RESubject: Re: NADD 
>RESPONSE TO UDP/NRP ALLIANCE/joe Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:07:09 +0000
>
>Sanusi, I agree with you.  The fact that the APRC needs just one vote (real 
>or imagined) means that rigging is a must for them.  Even with unity, we 
>are going to have a rough ride and I am not sure Gambians are willing to 
>fight for their rights when that happens.   Individually, it is a very long 
>short and that will allow Yaya to rig it the better.  Are Gambians ready to 
>vote their conscience with a divided opposition?  Only time will tell, but 
>the signals are not good.
>
>As to a future collaboration, I say it matters most to collaborate to 
>remove Yaya now, rather than to collaborate for the NA elections.  Yaya is 
>the one murdering folks, the one arresting folks, manipulating our legal 
>system, and the one stealing from us.  Thus, if we do not come together and 
>get rid of him, we are putting the cart before the horse.  Trust me, if 
>there is no unity now, you can forget any such thing for the NA elections.
>
>In a three way race kinder and gentler will be suicidal for the opposition. 
>  How can NADD/UDP differentiate itself from the other, without addressing 
>the short comings of the other, and vise versa?   They have to tell the 
>voters what they can do that the other cannot, so, none cannot avoid 
>getting wet if they want to cross the river on foot.  You throw in the 
>local supporters and their task is much more difficult.  At the end of the 
>day, our goal should be to get rid of Yaya and that is the only energy I 
>have left in my tank for now.   Lord knows I wished we were not in this 
>crossroad.  Good luck to the opposition.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
>>From: Sanusi Owens Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>
>>To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: RESubject: Re: NADD RESPONSE 
>>TO UDP/NRP ALLIANCE/joe Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:07:17 +0100
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>   You wrote:
>>
>>   "If unity is not possible, we got to move on and make hay while the sun 
>>shines."
>>
>>   Indeed! Too much bickering about NADD vs UDP/NRP is giving the wrong 
>>signal. I am sure you will jubilate if UDP/NRP Alliance or NADD wins the 
>>Presidential Election. Don't forget that the winner needs only a single 
>>majority to capture the Presidency and it is still possible for either 
>>UDP/NRP ALLIANCE or NADD to win the Presidency.
>>
>>   We need to minimise our criticisms of the various Opposition Parties 
>>and focus on the arch rival-President Jammeh and the APRC.   Whilst NADD 
>>and UDP/ALLIANCE can't agree about having a Single Candidate for the 
>>Presidential Election, the doors for future negotiations should not be 
>>closed because both parties will have to co-operate when contesting for 
>>the Parliamentary Elections scheduled to take place in December. If too 
>>much bad blood is littered between NADD and the UDP/NRP Alliance, then 
>>hopes of having compromise Candidates for the next parliamentary elections 
>>are unlikely.
>>
>>   Regards
>>
>>   Sanusi
>>
>>
>>
>>Joe Sambou wrote:   Ndey, my post was just to answer to Sidibeh's question 
>>why the talks are now in the open as opposed to privately. I have long 
>>focused on helping NADD, knowing that after three years of negotiations we 
>>were not going anywhere. Currently, who is negotiating between the two, 
>>none. Thus, we have to focus on supporting our conscience because time is 
>>not waiting for us. Trust me, I changed my focus and energy moons ago. 
>>Yes, those that wish to continue to negotiate are Gambians and are free to 
>>continue, that is if any is currently engaged in such. If unity is not 
>>possible, we got to move on and make hay while the sun shines.
>>
>>Chi Jaama
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>
>> >From: Ndey Jobarteh >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing 
>>list > >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: RESubject: Re: NADD 
>>RESPONSE TO UDP/NRP ALLIANCE/joe >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:10:25 +0000 > 
>> >Joe, > >Reading from Saihou response to Sidibeh's interventions and 
>>yours it >worry's me because I strongly believe that this is not a game, 
>>it is not >about who did what first, it is not about NADD and UNDP/NRP. 
>>The fight is >about getting rid of the AFPRC regime and this should be our 
>>focus no >matter what block we are. I have lots of issues with UDP/NRP but 
>>I believe >our focus and energy now is to assist the masses at home to 
>>make the right >decision. If we want to spend all our time and energy 
>>trashing issues >between the two we won't get anywhere. > >Those of us who 
>>are not good at negotiating should just leave it to those >who can. And we 
>>can move on to strategic and meaningful discussions as to >how to get rid 
>>of Jammeh and make Gambia a home for all. I don't know about >the rest of 
>>you but for me what happens in Gambia affects me directly not >even 
>>indirectly and therefore I see the need to be focus and strategic in >this 
>>difficult times. > >We should all concentrate our energies in getting our 
>>friends and family to >vote for NADD whiles negotiations are going on. I 
>>believe each and every >Gambian should make it their duty to get rid of 
>>this tyranny in the >country. The slogan should be AFPRC must go and it 
>>should be written in all >our minds, houses and prayers. > >I hope this 
>>will open a new chapter of dialogue and fruitful discussions >towards the 
>>September elections because the campaign has started. A lot of >Gambians 
>>reads the L and I believe is can contribute strongly to the down >fall of 
>>Jammeh if it is used properly >The Struggle Continues!!! >Ndey Jobarteh > 
>> > > > > > >>From: Joe Sambou Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues 
>>mailing list >> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: RESubject: 
>>Re: NADD >>RESPONSE TO UDP/NRP ALLIANCE (testing) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 
>>22:21:55 >>+0000 >> >>Ndey and Sidebeh, the negotiations were forced to be 
>>public because of the >>games that were being played for the past three 
>>years. When someone >>continuously agrees to one thing in private only to 
>>go to their supporters >>and say something entirely different, then the 
>>way you nip it at the bud >>is to bring out what was said by both parties, 
>>so the public can judge for >>themselves. This way, what ever one said 
>>will be heard by all and so, one >>cannot manipulate the situation 
>>anymore. Clearly, Gambians know who is >>being manipulative and can see 
>>what type of Gambia each is fighting for. >>All hands must be on deck and 
>>Gambians will catch any slight of hand in >>this setting. >> >>Chi Jaama 
>> >> >>Joe >> >> >>>From: Ndey Jobarteh Reply-To: The Gambia and 
>>related-issues mailing list >>> >>>To: [log in to unmask] 
>>Subject: RESubject: Re: NADD RESPONSE TO >>>UDP/NRP ALLIANCE (testing) 
>>Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:10:55 +0000 >>> >>>Sidibeh, >>> >>> >>> >>> I 
>>completely agree with you but since it has found its way here, I >>>guess 
>>these sentences needs to be trashed and put in its proper context. >>> >>> 
>>In the letter "I am to convey to you that the NADD Executive has 
>> >>>rejected your proposal to expand the UDP/NRP informal Alliance to 
>>include >>>NADD. In the same vein the proposal for the flag bearer not to 
>>have a one >>>term limit is also rejected. " >>> >>> If UDP/NRP wants 
>>genuine alliance I believe they will have to revisit >>>the NADD MOU and 
>>renegotiate any provision they consider unacceptable as >>>stated clearly 
>>in this letter. There no need to pretend any more we have >>>to face the 
>>hard fact that there is a high chance that the coalition >>>under UDP, 
>>NRP, NDAM and PDOIs will never take place so we have to cut >>>our losses 
>>and rally around NADD. Those who still believe in negations to >>>bring 
>>the parties together can still go on but I for one think that it is 
>> >>>better to dedicate ones energy in strategies to bring Jammeh down come 
>> >>>next election. >>> >>> >>>In the letter" Finally, the proposal for a 
>>new Alliance to concentrate on >>>changing the regime and then discuss all 
>>programs after the change has >>>occurred is also rejected." >>> >>> >>> 
>> >>> The above proposal is completely unacceptable for any serious minded 
>> >>>person or party. How can parties agreed to come together and then 
>>later >>>discuss their programs. I for one will never vote for such an 
>>alliance. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the letter: "This is why we have suggested 
>>for UDP/NRP to revisit >>>the NADD MOU and renegotiate any provision they 
>>consider unacceptable. >>>The position of flag bearer has always been 
>>negotiable since the NADD >>>flag bearer had declared that he is willing 
>>to step down once a person >>>who can best serve as a unifying factor is 
>>found." >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe that UDP/NRP is given the green light 
>>and they should really >>>think through this and come out with a better 
>>solution. Until now they >>>have not come out concrete issues that need to 
>>be dealt with. Now that >>>the door is open for them to revisit the MOU 
>>and renegotiate, I strongly >>>believe that they should take this 
>>opportunity if they are genuinely in >>>for this alliance. >>> >>> >>> >>> 
>>The Struggle Continues!! >>> >>> Ndey Jobarteh >>> 
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