How do you all look stuff in the Greek, what do you use?  
Rhonda

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From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Something to think about

Look the word "greater" up in the Greek first.  You might have a different
opinion.

Phil.


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From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Something to think about


> For once!! For once I saw the light!! I can actually summarize someone
> else's lengthy babble into one statement, instead of the reverse hahahaah
> Here it is regarding Jesus statement of "doing greater things than even
he"...
>
> He referred to greater in number of occurrences , not power.
>
> Woo who.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> At 02:48 PM 1/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
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> >Okay, I'm not necessarily saying that I whole heartedly agree with
> >this line of thinking, but I thought I'd throw it in to the mix so
> >that we could chew on it together, especially considering our
> >conversation about healing and faith of late.
> >Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >January 27, 2006
> >
> >Greater Works
> >by John Fischer
> >
> >Ever wonder about that time when Jesus said that those who believe in
> >Him would do even greater works than He did? Well I don't know about
> >you, but I haven't
> >brought anyone back from the dead in the last few weeks. The last
> >time I stepped on water, I sank. I can't even cure the common cold,
> >and I can't make
> >the water in my glass into anything other than... water. What could
> >Jesus possibly mean by this statement? My only take on this up until
> >now has been to
> >assume I was falling way short of what I could be accomplishing with
> >my life. Well that's kind of depressing. Why did Jesus say this if He
> >was just going
> >to leave us all depressed by it?
> >
> >Dave Roper, in his writing on John, has helped me to finally make
> >some sense of this. The actual statement is found in John 14:12,
> >"Anyone who believes
> >in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works,
> >because I am going to be with my Father." The key, Dave points out,
> >is in the statement:
> >"because I am going to be with my Father." In other words, these
> >greater works will be possible as a result of His leaving. Couple
> >that with his statement
> >a few verses later about coming back in the form of the Holy Spirit
> >who would indwell all believers, and you begin to get the picture.
> >
> >Let me try and say it another way. It's as if Jesus were saying,
> >"Right now there is only one of me. Soon there will be many, because
> >I am going to my Father
> >in heaven from where I can direct my work through hundreds,
> >thousands, even millions of you all over the world."
> >
> >"Our efforts," Dave Roper writes, "insignificant on the face of it
> >and largely unobserved, are joined to innumerable streams of effort
> >that result in the
> >stupendous flow of God's love and goodness to men and women, boys and
> >girls throughout the world. Thus we are part of a greater thing than
> >we could ever
> >imagine!"
> >
> >Think of it. We are accomplishing greater works than Christ did when
> >He was here! It's what we can all do together as the singular "body
> >of Christ" that
> >is at work here. Talk about purpose! And your job is just as
> >important as anyone else's.
> >
> >We are a part of something great. Just as a tiny stream begins high
> >in the mountains and is joined by countless tributaries until it
> >becomes a wide, rushing
> >river, so our little work becomes part of a work greater than what
> >even Jesus accomplished when He was here.
> >
> >[Note: Saddleback Church, through it's network of purpose-driven
> >churches all over the world is currently organizing a global
> >initiative to bring healing,
> >literacy, mentoring and assistance to the poor through its P.E.A.C.E.
> >plan. It's a fulfillment of just what Jesus was talking about. For
> >more information
> >click here
> >http://www.purposedriven.com/en-US/PEACE/PEACE_Plan.htm.
> >
> >
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> >
> >Okay, I'm not necessarily saying that I whole heartedly agree with this
> >line of thinking, but I thought I'd throw it in to the mix so that we
> >could chew on it together, especially considering our conversation about
> >healing and faith of late.
> >Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >January 27, 2006
> >
> >Greater Works
> >by John Fischer
> >
> >Ever wonder about that time when Jesus said that those who believe in Him
> >would do even greater works than He did? Well I don't know about you, but
> >I haven't
> >brought anyone back from the dead in the last few weeks. The last time I
> >stepped on water, I sank. I can't even cure the common cold, and I can't
make
> >the water in my glass into anything other than... water. What could Jesus
> >possibly mean by this statement? My only take on this up until now has
been to
> >assume I was falling way short of what I could be accomplishing with my
> >life. Well that's kind of depressing. Why did Jesus say this if He was
> >just going
> >to leave us all depressed by it?
> >
> >Dave Roper, in his writing on John, has helped me to finally make some
> >sense of this. The actual statement is found in John 14:12, "Anyone who
> >believes
> >in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because
> >I am going to be with my Father." The key, Dave points out, is in the
> >statement:
> >"because I am going to be with my Father." In other words, these greater
> >works will be possible as a result of His leaving. Couple that with his
> >statement
> >a few verses later about coming back in the form of the Holy Spirit who
> >would indwell all believers, and you begin to get the picture.
> >
> >Let me try and say it another way. It's as if Jesus were saying, "Right
> >now there is only one of me. Soon there will be many, because I am going
> >to my Father
> >in heaven from where I can direct my work through hundreds, thousands,
> >even millions of you all over the world."
> >
> >"Our efforts," Dave Roper writes, "insignificant on the face of it and
> >largely unobserved, are joined to innumerable streams of effort that
> >result in the
> >stupendous flow of God's love and goodness to men and women, boys and
> >girls throughout the world. Thus we are part of a greater thing than we
> >could ever
> >imagine!"
> >
> >Think of it. We are accomplishing greater works than Christ did when He
> >was here! It's what we can all do together as the singular "body of
> >Christ" that
> >is at work here. Talk about purpose! And your job is just as important as
> >anyone else's.
> >
> >We are a part of something great. Just as a tiny stream begins high in
the
> >mountains and is joined by countless tributaries until it becomes a wide,
> >rushing
> >river, so our little work becomes part of a work greater than what even
> >Jesus accomplished when He was here.
> >
> >[Note: Saddleback Church, through it's network of purpose-driven churches
> >all over the world is currently organizing a global initiative to bring
> >healing,
> >literacy, mentoring and assistance to the poor through its P.E.A.C.E.
> >plan. It's a fulfillment of just what Jesus was talking about. For more
> >information
> >click here
> >http://www.purposedriven.com/en-US/PEACE/PEACE_Plan.htm.
> >
> >
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>
> Brad
>
>    It's not what you're going through, but how you're going through it
>
>
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