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Perhaps, yet those very folks he supposedly witnessed to watched him hobble 
off yet lame. Which gives witness to the fact he was one of those left 
behind and not healed. God is soverign and obviously just and righteous, 
and it is I, if I don't understand, the one in need of a change, but I 
don't see how plattitudes are justification. God's will shown by his word 
does not show me his wish is for man to be afflicted. If so he'd have layed 
hands on them, prayed, and said go about your way giving glory to God all 
your lame days. But he didn't. Neither had the disciples after Jesus was 
cruicified. We see those who believed he was Christ be healed and we see 
those who hadn't a clue be healed. The blind guy along the road side cried 
out to Christ as Lord, he knew Christ, already a bleiver giving glory to 
God, , yet Christ did heal him. So we really do have this "Elephant" in the 
living room even here to some degree. I understand too that everyone has a 
threshold of tolerance in continuing to ask such questions, it isn't the 
first time I've been called stubborn hahahah. I just like to know squarely 
where things sit. Ever get someone to say to you...

"Oh I've got something umm rather important to talk to you about next we 
meet? OK. Bye now!"

It is like "Wait wait wait get back here! Don't leave me hanging in mystery 
land, let's get this out now and eal with it and move on. "

Brad


At 12:30 PM 1/24/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>in the Christmas Carroll Tiny Tim said it best.  When he came home from the
>Christmas eve service he said he was glad to be a cripple because when the
>whole people saw him they were more likely to remember the one who made lame
>men walk and the blind to see.  I, of course, am paraphrasing here.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Biblical question
>
>
> > A couple definitions and then a comment.
> >
> > Old Testament:7623
> > shabach (shaw-bakh'); a primitive root; properly, to address in a loud
> > tone, i.e. (specifically) loud; figuratively, to pacify (as if by words):
> >
> > KJV - commend, glory, keep in, praise, still, triumph.
> >
> > New Testament:1391
> > doxa (dox'-ah); from the base of NT:1380; glory (as very apparent), in a
> > wide application (literal or figurative, objective or subjective):
> >
> > KJV - dignity, glory (-ious), honour, praise, worship.
> >
> >
> > This scripture comes to mind...
> >
> > John 9:1-3
> > As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth.
> > 2 And His disciples asked Him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his
>parents,
> > that he would be born blind?"
> > 3 Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents;
> > but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him.
> >
> > Of course he was subsequently healed and all in the community noticed he
> > now could see and gave credit to Christ, who of course gave credit to all
> > he did and was to the Father.
> >
> > I think we naturally look for "glory of God" in situations as being the
> > healing so that others can easily see God's hand and honor and power and
> > etc. I suppose it could be said as well that we can also see the glory of
> > God in even our situation not yet healed and how we still trust and
>believe
> > and etc., however I myself , though I do trust and have faith, tend to
> > shirk from considering "blindness" as a glorification of God. Not because
>I
> > don't want to give glorification, but I have yet to see glorification to
> > God of my blindness in the witness of on lookers. But then, my life isn't
> > for onlookers to view as a side show either, and what glory I can give God
> > from my life as it is, is wonderful and privilege to be a part of that.
>I'm
> > not sure God gets honor and etc. from my blindness, or from anyone's
> > sickness. If there were glory to be found in illness and disease
> > themselves, there'd be more of it and Jesus wouldn't have felt the
> > compassion he did towards those who suffered as such. It isn't easy to
> > understand is it. I assume this has something to do with the young lady
> > Christian and Focus on the Family?
> >
> > Brad

Brad

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