Virgie,
Thanks so very much. I really appreciate it. I should have added "and
everybody," as I meant it for all too.
Hugs,
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] question
> Hi Vickie,
> I know you sent this message to David and Brad but I want you to know I
will
> be praying for your Dad as well.
> Virgie and Hoshi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:28 AM
> Subject: Fw: [ECHURCH-USA] question
>
>
> >> David and Brad,,
> >>
> >> Both my parents are seniors. They're wonderful people. My dad is not
> >> saved. He struggles with severe chronic pain due to arthritis in his
> > spine.
> >> He said to me the other day in a casual conversation that he didn't
> >> expect
> >> to live but 2 or 3 more years at most. I don't know that I believe it.
> >> However he is almost 80. Any of us could be in eternity the next
second,
> > so
> >> only God knows. It made me very sad. We've prayed for him for years
for
> >> salvation. Besides being my Dad, he's a favorite person. When my dad
> > told
> >> me that we were on the phone, discussing something about my mom, as she
> >> is
> >> having some physical issues. He had company so we couldn't talk
longer.
> > I
> >> would be so sad not to have my dad with me in heaven. Mom will be I
> >> believe. I know others of us on this list have unsaved loved ones.
Pray
> >> for my dad. And also for any other unsaved loved ones.
> >>
> >> Vicki
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Stahl" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:45 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] question
> >>
> >>
> >> > Jen, I'm going to offer an answer to your question. Revelation
> >> > 21:4 says, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
> >> > and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying,
> >> > neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are
> >> > passed away." Please note that the first thing that verse tells us
> >> > is that God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Why do
> >> > you think that will be? I believe at the white throne judgment,
> >> > when those of us who are saved, born again, believers, must
> >> > watch our loved ones who have rejected Christ being turned
> >> > away into hell for eternity, we will be filled with unspeakable
> >> > grief and sorrow, and will weep bitterly. Afterward, God shall
> >> > wipe away all tears from our eyes; and there will be no more
> >> > unpleasantness in heaven from that time forward. I realize this
> >> > is open to controversy; but that's my opinion, and I'm right. LOL!
> >> > Dave
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "jen and Star" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:56 PM
> >> > Subject: question
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Brad,
> >> >
> >> > You're absolutely right. Of course we'll see our loved ones again...
> >> saved
> >> > or not... at the white throne judgement. My question to that is...
> >> > will
> >> we
> >> > be sad? Will we cry when we see our unsaved loved ones be cast into
> >> > the
> >> > lake of fire? Will Christ cry or feel sad?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jen and MAMA-Star
> >> > "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
trouble
> >> > remembering how to fly."
> >> > Author unknown
> >> > AIM: jenibear1998
> >> > msn
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:21 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Jen,
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes that is true, and what is really sad is that there are those
who
> >> > > aren't
> >> > > saved, and yet still think they will see loved ones when the game
is
> >> over.
> >> > > It still makes the loss go down easier now, but doesn't change the
> >> future
> >> > > that lyes before them in eternity. They may well see them, but if
not
> >> > > saved
> >> > > by Christ, they'll be meeting in a different rendezvous point than
> > they
> >> > > assumed. That to me would be worse.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brad
> >> > > At 05:07 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >>Brad. This is true. But i was just curious. It seems a death is
> >> easier
> >> > >>if
> >> > >>one is saved because the grievigng individuals know they'll see
them
> >> > >>again.
> >> > >>Again, just curious.
> >> > >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> >> > >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
> > trouble
> >> > >>remembering how to fly."
> >> > >>Author unknown
> >> > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> >> > >>msn
> >> > >>[log in to unmask]
> >> > >>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:45 PM
> >> > >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Jen,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I would like to say yes, but as with any of us, it is between
them
> >> and
> >> > >> > God.
> >> > >> > They are good people, do much to help others, you couldn't find
> >> better
> >> > >> > folks, but as you know it is acceptance of Christ in your heart
> > that
> >> > >> > makes
> >> > >> > the difference and not works. I tend to think they are but I
don't
> >> > >> > know.
> >> > >> > Either way Kathy has found out one way or the other.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Brad
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > At 01:48 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >> >>thanks. Isd lary and was his wife saved?
> >> > >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> >> > >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
> >> trouble
> >> > >> >>remembering how to fly."
> >> > >> >>Author unknown
> >> > >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> >> > >> >>msn
> >> > >> >>[log in to unmask]
> >> > >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:43 PM
> >> > >> >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > PS. I like your tag line about friends.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Brad
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > At 12:02 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >> >> >>wow brad. Will keep him in prayer. Do you see Lary often?
> >> > >> >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> >> > >> >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings
have
> >> > >> >> >>trouble
> >> > >> >> >>remembering how to fly."
> >> > >> >> >>Author unknown
> >> > >> >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> >> > >> >> >>msn
> >> > >> >> >>[log in to unmask]
> >> > >> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:42 AM
> >> > >> >> >>Subject: Prayer for a friend
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> > Hello All,
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > I would ask you pray for a very dear friend of mine who
lost
> >> his
> >> > >> >> >> > wife
> >> > >> >> >> > yesterday. In the midst of enjoying their final leg of a
> >> Western
> >> > >> >> >> > Caribbean
> >> > >> >> >> > cruise, along with many of their fellow friends and NFB
> >> members,
> >> > >> >> >> > Kathleen
> >> > >> >> >> > Sebranek suddenly passed away. Larry her husband, my
friend,
> >> will
> >> > >> >> >> > be
> >> > >> >> >> > especially grievous as they did everything together as a
> >> couple,
> >> > >> >> >> > many
> >> > >> >> >> > cruises and visits with friends across the US. No doubt he
> > will
> >> > >> >> >> > be
> >> > >> >> >> > inundated with calls and visits of sympathy, which can be
> >> > >> >> >> > overwhelming
> >> > >> >> >> > in
> >> > >> >> >> > itself as nice as the gesture is, I know as well he'll
have
> > a
> >> > >> >> >> > huge
> >> > >> >> >> > life
> >> > >> >> >> > change to deal with when things quiet. She in recent times
> > has
> >> > >> >> >> > been
> >> > >> >> >> > in
> >> > >> >> >> > a
> >> > >> >> >> > wheel chair due to health various issues and also blind,
as
> >> well
> >> > >> >> >> > as
> >> > >> >> >> > Larry
> >> > >> >> >> > being blind himself pushing her around from event to
event,
> >> > >> >> >> > certainly
> >> > >> >> >> > were
> >> > >> >> >> > inspiring to those who felt they couldn't negotiate travel
> > with
> >> a
> >> > >> >> >> > disability. We enjoyed a seven day cruise last year with
> >> > >> >> >> > them
> >> > >> >> >> > when
> >> > >> >> >> > Brenda
> >> > >> >> >> > and I had our 20th wedding anniversary. Thanks so much for
> > your
> >> > >> >> >> > prayers
> >> > >> >> >> > on
> >> > >> >> >> > his behalf.
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > Brad
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Brad
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Do not change your theology to accommodate a tragedy
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Brad
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Strive to be insulated, not insulated
> >> > >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Brad
> >> > >
> >> > > A successful relationship isn't finding the right person; it's
> >> > > being
> >> the
> >> > > right person
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
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