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I like the rambling on this student annual dues issue. However, as far
as my knowledge goes, legal innuendoes create room for manipulation.
The handwriting is on the wall as far as the dues matter goes.
Keep rambling!
PETER W.VAKUNTA
DEPARTMENT OF FRENCH AND ITALIAN
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN MADISON
602 VAN HISE HALL
1220 LINDEN DRIVE
MADISON WI 53706-1525
U.S.A
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"The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise man is
in his heart."
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
----- Original Message -----
From: f ossia <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:33 pm
Subject: Proof of Age Required !!- RE: [AAM] RE: REVISED MEMBERSHIP DUES
To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask],
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<span><p><div style='background-color:'><P>Richard Yarl,</P>
<P>I am totally with you on this issue Richard. I have problems with
using age to determine dues. Benefits are not a function of age neither
is ability to pay. This scheme is error prone and divisive
and it goes to the very core of our existence- who is a member? Of
course payment of dues determines membership. So is o</P>
<OL>
<LI>I don't know how they want verify age. Perhaps with a
statement, "Please, enclose proof of age with your membership check" or
a statement on AAM function announcements, "Please be ready to present
proof of age at the door". Of course this will cross-check against the
dues schedule and payment.</LI>
<LI>Why should an 18 year-old and a 25 year-old pay the same amount? 21
to 25 year olds can legally drink alcohol while 18 year-olds cannot.
So, tell me what the 18 year-old is getting as benefit comparable
to the other older age groups. Why should a forty year-old
pay more than a 25 year-old except that he is older? Does he get more
in benefits? Does higher dues entitle him to more or louder say in the
association?</LI>
<LI>Who is a member? In the old schedule, I know of several families
where the wife or husband paid the dues for the family. It
was therefore an inducement for family participation. Now that we
have individual dues, do we also have individual participation? I
mean if Morgan or Eric pay their dues does that entitle their
wives or girl friends to free entrance to our functions? Even if
they are Africans and haven't paid their dues?</LI></OL>
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<P>I hope the board of directors re-visits this issue as soon as
possible. There was nothing wrong with the old system. A footnote
advising that married students were subject to family dues or
something in-between could have resolved the students' rate issue.
That system acknowledged the family as a unit. I have heard the
argument that the old system did not specifically mention families.
Well, it was implied and the Association was deliberately mute on the
definition of a family because of the different permutations and
combinations a "couple".</P>
<P>Felix<BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<[log in to unmask]>,"Peter A."
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[AAM] RE: REVISED MEMBERSHIP DUES</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 11 Jan 2006
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12012006>Richard, </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=843183400-
12012006>I don't know why your posting to the list wasn't forwarded. I
have however, forwarded your posting to both list
serves.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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12012006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=843183400-
12012006>I do not have control of the current list serve nor do I have
control over the new one. Please contact the list administrators for
further details.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Richard Yarl
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 11,
2006 1:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Peter A.;
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: REVISED MEMBERSHIP
DUES<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Good afternoon, Peter.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please help, if you can. On Tuesday, 1/10/06, I </DIV>
<DIV>posted the immediate below feedback in response </DIV>
<DIV>to Joe Brewoo's answer to my initial inquiry on the </DIV>
<DIV>Revised Membership Dues. It has not appeared </DIV>
<DIV>on any of the two AAM Listservs. However, I am </DIV>
<DIV>receiving postings from other senders to the </DIV>
<DIV>Listservs. I am very curious.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hence, if there is anything you can do to help</DIV>
<DIV>remedy this, I will highly appreciate it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers. Thanks in advance for your attention and</DIV>
<DIV>assistance.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard</DIV>
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<I></I></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><I>Richard Yarl <[log in to unmask]></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Re: REVISED MEMBERSHIP DUES</DIV>
<DIV> Jan. 10, 2006</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for the response, Joe.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now this is for the Board of Directors, as you suggested.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My confusion is not over the number of categories rather</DIV>
<DIV>the age differentials and dynamic financial impositions:</DIV>
<DIV> Below 18 years: Complimentary </DIV>
<DIV> <STRONG>Youth </STRONG>18 through 25 years<STRONG>?
</STRONG>: $10.00</DIV>
<DIV> <STRONG>Adult </STRONG>26 years and
above<STRONG>?:</STRONG> $25.00 </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What determinants were used to allocate the age range and</DIV>
<DIV>their respective dues? Is it about level of income
earning</DIV>
<DIV>potential or willingness/ability to make a financial
commitment? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Please help. And please understand that at this
point, </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>while I trust that </STRONG><STRONG>the Board of
Directors will work in the </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>'best' </STRONG><STRONG>interests of </STRONG><STRONG>both
</STRONG><STRONG>AAM and its members, I just need </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>a </STRONG><STRONG>clear
</STRONG><STRONG>understanding </STRONG><STRONG>for this
change. I hope I am </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>speaking </STRONG><STRONG>for others with similar
</STRONG><STRONG>inquiry as well. And I </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>hope it will not offend anyone </STRONG><STRONG>who
may think </STRONG><STRONG>otherwise.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard</DIV>
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BR><BR><I><STRONG>Joe Brewoo <[log in to unmask]></STRONG></I>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you Mr Yarl for your interest. </DIV>
<DIV>You did not explain the point of confusion with respect to the
categories of membership dues.</DIV>
<DIV>I thought having a lesser number of categories will be simplier
than having more categories.</DIV>
<DIV>We used to have three categories of paid full membership;
Family, Individuals and Students.</DIV>
<DIV>It has been revised to make it simplier by having two categories,
Youth and Adult to curtail all associated confusion with the previous
schedule.</DIV>
<DIV>The reasons are for simplification and the benefits are for
equity.</DIV>
<DIV>I hope this helps you out. Please, refer your concerns to the
Board.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Brewoo</DIV>
<DIV>Treasurer</DIV>
<DIV>Member - Board of Directors</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<BR>From: <I>Richard Yarl <[log in to unmask]></I><BR>Reply-
To: <I>"AAM (African Association of Madison)"
<[log in to unmask]></I><BR>To:
<I>[log in to unmask]</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: REVISED MEMBERSHIP
DUES</I><BR>Date: <I>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:25:47 -0800</I><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>Congratulations on your election and thanks for the
information, </DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Treasurer.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am very interested in knowing the reason(s) and benefit(s) to
AAM </DIV>
<DIV>and members for this change. Please help me. I am
really confused</DIV>
<DIV>over the complexity of the different categories of
membership.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard</DIV>
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><BR><B><I>Joe Brewoo <[log in to unmask]></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!</DIV>
<DIV>We all look forward to a fruitful and an exciting 2006.</DIV>
<DIV>Reporting from the first Board meeting of the African Association
of Madison, Inc, please <BR>note the following changes in the
Membership Dues.</DIV>
<DIV>Family rate of $40 per couple and the students rate of $10 have
been abolished.</DIV>
<DIV>Here are the new simplified rates;</DIV>
<DIV>Adult rate (26 years and above) $25.00 per individual per
year</DIV>
<DIV>Youth rate (18 years through 25 years) $10.00 per individual per
year</DIV>
<DIV>Complimentary membership for all below 18 years.<BR><BR>Also note
that our fiscal year ends on September 30.</DIV>
<DIV>Members are strongly encouraged to pay their dues by end of March
2006 to keep the programs and acitivities of the Association alive. We
need your dues to keep this listserve going so that we can all enjoy
the lively discussions and information we share.</DIV>
<DIV>Please, mail your dues to the Association or drop me an email
to arrange for alternative delivery.</DIV>
<DIV>Checks should be made to African Association of Madison and mailed
to;</DIV>
<DIV>P. O. Box 1016 Madison, WI 53701-1016.</DIV><BR>
<DIV>Thank you very much for your continued support.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joe Brewoo</DIV>
<DIV>Treasurer</DIV></DIV></DIV>----------------------------------------
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