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VIRGIE UNDERWOOD <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Kathy,
I wish they were my relatives Smile!
Virgie Underwood and Hoshi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Food and God's word


> Brad,
> I hope that you're not frustrated with meeeeee!!  (She said,
> innocently smiling across the miles)!!  Doesn't some company called
> Underwood make deviled ham?
> Kathy
>
>
> At 02:07 PM 12/2/2005, you wrote:
>>Kathy,
>>
>>Sorry. Likely just me in a blinding moment of frustration. Bad Brad. Bad,
>>bad, bad. haha. FYI it isn't ham that is demonic, it is eggs. Yep I'm
>>serious, surely you've heard of "Deviled Eggs"? *cheesy grin*
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>At 12:42 PM 12/2/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Brad,
>> >I was joking!!  That's why I said "GRIN!" after my quip!  Sorry.  I
>> >guess that it didn't come off very well.  Oh well, it's not the first
>> >time I've fallen flat.
>> >Kathy
>> >
>> >
>> >At 10:23 AM 12/2/2005, you wrote:
>> > >Kathy,
>> > >
>> > >I think you are missing the point.
>> > >
>> > >Brad
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >At 08:23 AM 12/2/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > >Brad,
>> > > >Plus,
>> > > >I suppose that we can prove, biblicly of course, that ham is
>> > > >demonic?  GRIN!  Kathy
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >At 05:07 PM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
>> > > > >Seafood is especially bad. Turkey? Scavengers? Ummm they
>> forage but they
>> > > > >don't eat road kill and etc. At least not that I'm aware of. I'm
>> > > > >not
>> > > > >certain on the Leviticus stand on Turkey one would have to
>> check it out.
>> > > > >And no I won't be having ham *smile*.  I've noticed people tend
>> > > to get very
>> > > > >defensive of the foods of today when matched to the
>> Leviticus rules. Not
>> > > > >that you are, but I know many do. There is no commandment to not
>> > > > >get
>> > drunk
>> > > > >either, but God says don't do it man don't do it. People, or I
>> > > > >ought
>> > say,
>> > > > >Christians for the most part,  don't have issue with that
>> rule lol. If I
>> > > > >can find the name of the book I'll post it. It is a doctor of
>> > medicine who
>> > > > >took the various foods and matched them nutritionally to God's
>> > > guide and ge
>> > > > >whiz, God was on to something with his rule, they actually are the
>> > > > >healthiest... and the stuff he said to stay away from is high in
>> > > toxins and
>> > > > >cholesterol... who'd a thunk! lol.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Brad
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >At 07:33 AM 12/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > > > >I take it then, Brad that you won't be having ham for Christmas!
>> > > > > >I
>> > > > > >feel sorry for all the Maine lobstermen too.    Don't
>> turkeys do some
>> > > > > >scavenging too?  HMMMM!  GRIN!
>> > > > > >Kathy
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >At 08:29 PM 11/30/2005, you wrote:
>> > > > > > >Kathy,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >India must have had Lamb, fish, chicken, etc.?  The reason I
>> > think the
>> > > > > > >Leviticus foods are still applicable today is because it
>> is clearly
>> > > > based
>> > > > > > >out of a nutrition and cleanliness issue. Scavengers
>> > > are  high in toxins
>> > > > > > >while clean meat and foods are low cholesterol and etc.
>> We can prove
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > >out in today's science what God knew back then because he
>> > > > > created them.  It
>> > > > > > >never was a "law" to eat only the foods in Leviticus,  it
>> > > > > > >looked
>> > > > > to me that
>> > > > > > >God was giving wise guidelines to follow. If one chooses to
>> > alter from
>> > > > > > >that, I suppose they pay the price, like we see
>> happening today. The
>> > > > > > >sacrifice of the animals is done with Christ, but we still
>> > > > > > >need
>> > > > > to eat, and
>> > > > > > >I don't think God has made pig any cleaner today than it was
>> > > > > centuries ago.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Brad
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >At 09:20 AM 11/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > > > > > >Brad,
>> > > > > > > >I do believe that food restrictions were eliminated as
>> > well.  After
>> > > > > > > >all, Jesus said, "Go in to all the world."  If the disciples
>> > had to
>> > > > > > > >take there dietary restrictions with them where ever they
>> > went, how
>> > > > > > > >could Paul then be all things to all people?  Don't
>> forget, church
>> > > > > > > >tradition says that  Andrew ended up in India.  If that is
>> > true, in
>> > > > > > > >India, then he wouldn't have been able to eat cow
>> meat.  He would
>> > > > > > > >have had to eat something else!
>> > > > > > > >Kathy
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >At 03:06 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >According to Leviticus, God gave his people some very
>> > > > > > > > >simple
>> > > > > but easy to
>> > > > > > > > >determine guidelines for food they ought eat. Fish that
>> > > > > > > > >have
>> > > > > > > scales and not
>> > > > > > > > >those without, not to eat scavengers, but to eat hooved
>> > > animals that
>> > > > > > chew
>> > > > > > > > >their cud and etc.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >How then does the New Testament' scriptures  that speak of
>> > > > > unclean being
>> > > > > > > > >clean apply? Granted I know Peter's trance or dream or
>> > > whatever was
>> > > > > > > > >netaphorically speaking of the visitors he was about to
>> > > get who were
>> > > > > > > > >gentiles and not Jews, but is there a food related
>> > > > > application to it as
>> > > > > > > > >well? Curious of your thoghts. Has the New Testament made
>> > > > > the Leviticus
>> > > > > > > > >rules obsolete in any way.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >Rom 14:19-21
>> > > > > > > > >19 So then we pursue the things which make for peace and
>> > > > > > > > >the
>> > > > > > > building up of
>> > > > > > > > >one another.
>> > > > > > > > >20 Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food.
>> > > > > > > > >All
>> > > > > > > things indeed
>> > > > > > > > >are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and
>> > > gives offense.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >Acts 10:11-16
>> > > > > > > > >11 and he saw the sky opened up, and an object like a
>> > > > > > > > >great
>> > > > > sheet coming
>> > > > > > > > >down, lowered by four corners to the ground,
>> > > > > > > > >12 and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals
>> > > > > > > > >and
>> > > > crawling
>> > > > > > > > >creatures of the earth and birds of the air.
>> > > > > > > > >13 A voice came to him, "Get up, Peter, kill and eat!"
>> > > > > > > > >14 But Peter said, "By no means, Lord, for I have never
>> > > > > > > > >eaten
>> > > > anything
>> > > > > > > > >unholy and unclean."
>> > > > > > > > >15 Again a voice came to him a second time, "What God has
>> > > > cleansed, no
>> > > > > > > > >longer consider unholy."
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Brad
>> > > > > > >
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