Dear Brad,

Okay, I'll look for it. I have zipped files with texts in them such as
things like that. I use to save absolutely everything. lol.

I'll have to use some dicipline, and do this later on as I'm working on our
SCANACAN Pro manual today.

Thanks.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 08:28 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote:
>Pat,
>
>The name of the poem is The Table
>
>I even tried searching for keywords in any doc file on my computer with
>Windows + F and searched for the word "resin" as it is  fairly unique word
>that is in the poem but came up with a big goose egg *smile*. If you find
>it Pat, and I get a song written? I'll let you be the first to hear,
>critique, and kick it about lol.
>
>Brad
>
>At 07:58 AM 1/6/2006 -0600, you wrote:
> >Brad,
> >
> >If you let us know the name of that poem or song, perhaps some of us might
> >have saved it. I can find it. I have saved literally huge folders of text
> >stuff like that. I bet I might even have it. lol.
> >
> >Don't let anything or anyone discourage you. I love what others are saying
> >here, as well.
> >
> >Love and Blessings,
> >Pat Ferguson
> >
> >
> >At 07:50 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote:
> > >Rhonda,
> > >
> > >You know it is funny you mentioned that. That was a poem I wrote when
> I was
> > >living in Texas modeled after a poem that dealt with teen suicide. It was
> > >called "The Table" and I've looked high and low for that thing. I know I
> > >sent it to the list here, but that was before Phil went and changed the
> > >name of the list from E Church, to E Church USA or something... thanks a
> > >lot Phil lol. The archives aren't available for the old list, and I
> suspect
> > >we'll lose any archives now with this new switch. I wanted to use that
> > >whole poem as a metaphorical basis for a song. So, again, if any of you
> > >happen to never ever empty your trash bin lol or for some reason have a
> > >copy of it, I'd greatly appreciate a return. I thought I had put it in my
> > >journal, but like now, I'm seldom getting time to write in it, and likely
> > >didn't. I had sent it to a fellow in Texas for a resource for counseling,
> > >but never got a response from him either so I suspect it is gone forever.
> > >That was a computer or so ago and no longer have any remains of an outbox
> > >entry.
> > >
> > >Yes, those are the songs that stand out to me, the Christian orientated in
> > >a sea of secular stuff.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >At 08:27 PM 1/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Whether you write music that is for a "secular" audience, you will
> > still be
> > > >sending the Love Of God along with your songs,  just because we don't
> > > >mention God's name for all to hear doesn't mean we can put forth
> > values that
> > > >encourage love, forgiveness, and joy.  Many country songs
> > combine  religious
> > > >ideas and ideas about love.  I was thinking of that song you wrote
> > about the
> > > >married couple who had the Bible on  their table, and how they gradually
> > > >thought it less and less important, until they faced each other on a
> table
> > > >shared by lawyers with the Bible long forgotten.  That would be a great
> > > >Christian song or a great country song as well.
> > > >Rhonda
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MV
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:32 PM
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Directional Update
> > > >
> > > >Rhonda, and Virgie too said the same thing. The only question I had
> was in
> > > >what venue ought those gifts be used. I don't want to try to justify
> > my own
> > > >agenda in the name of carrying Christian beliefs through a back door for
> > > >affectivness sake, and forgo using it in a church setting if that is
> what
> > > >he wants. I just don't get the peace about it that way, which to me
> seems
> > > >odd, but I'm following the peace within as a guide of the Holy Spirit.
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 05:36 PM 1/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >Great to  hear Brad!!! Will be praying for you, I do think you have a
> > > gift,
> > > > >and gifts should used not left on a shelf somewhere!!!
> > > > >Rhonda
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MV
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:07 AM
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Directional Update
> > > > >
> > > > >In case anyone cares for a follow up on the songwriting direction
> I had
> > > > >asked for prayer a while back. I  asked God for several things,
> > > firstly was
> > > > >his will regarding the entire direction, and I guess evidence of his
> > will
> > > > >to be revealed as I stepped out  in faith. In other words I  felt
> inside
> > > > >that because the songwriting kept coming up, and it is a desirous
> > > > >aspiration or dream of mine which he has somewhat  gifted me with some
> > > > >abilities, sounds conceited I do not mean it so, I feel like a
> > plankton in
> > > > >a sea of more talented folks, that it would be irresponsible to nix
> > > > >that   inspiration and dream by tossing it off the side. With that I
> > moved
> > > > >forward, had some books scanned, bought one or two and having them
> > > scanned,
> > > > >joined NSAI, Nashville Songwriters Association International, a group
> > > meant
> > > > >to help and network anyone from just starting, to professional
> writers.
> > > > >Having just sat in on my first regional meeting here in the Twin
> Cities
> > > > >Minneapolis/ St. Paul, I found it to be very encouraging and friendly
> > > > >folks. I was pretty apprehensive of what it might be like. I jumped in
> > > with
> > > > >both feet and submitted a song for critique   of just me and my
> > guitar not
> > > > >knowing what kind of critiquing they do. I was very encouraged by the
> > > > >response. I did get some helpful ideas, however I was told the
> song is a
> > > > >pitchable song. Which means is worthy of sending to a publisher for
> > > > >consideration to see if there is any artist looking for such a song.
> > Kind
> > > > >of the bottom of the food chain but very encouraging nonetheless.
> I was
> > > > >fortunate to just happen to sit next to a Nashville writer who was the
> > > > >guest speaker and got to talk to her during break as well.
> Although this
> > > > >week I'm behind in my actual writing and in the midst  of a dry
> spot as
> > > > >Julie mentioned she is as well, I was blessed with a few songs
> recently
> > > > >which good, bad, or indifferent, they are part of the growth and
> > learning.
> > > > >The Nashville writer I sat next two is having a workshop up here in
> > March
> > > > >which I'll be attending. The workshop is actually based off a  Berkely
> > > > >School of Music course she is in the midst of being accredited into
> > their
> > > > >system. This is a great opportunity for only $45 as she is from this
> > area
> > > > >and wants to contribute to her home area. I'm also making plans to
> > > attend a
> > > > >Song Camp through NSAI in February which I just found a potential
> > roommate
> > > > >at the NSAI meeting last night, to share hotel expense. This is a very
> > > > >exciting time, although, humbling time. I was wiped out when I got
> home
> > > > >last night, I didn't realize the adrenalin I was shooting out having
> > > jumped
> > > > >in and submitted a song to be chewed up by peers who have been
> writing a
> > > > >lot longer than I. The best compliment I got was from a guy who
> said ...
> > > > >"I'll be singing that chorus all the way home..*I laughed in
> > humility*...
> > > > >no really I will" he said. I pray for continued direction with this
> > dream
> > > > >knowing full well god can remove the grace and ability anytime. I am
> > > > >setting one foot in front of the other and if the toes aren't
> > stepped on,
> > > > >I  assume God is with me, if he seems down on my toes, I'll look for
> > > > >another direction he has for me. One last thought and something to
> pray
> > > > >about if you so choose. I have a desire   for a certain focus on song
> > > > >content, and praying whether that is God's will for my focus. Being a
> > > > >Christian , and aspirations to be an affective songwriter, one might
> > > > >automatically assume you'd write praise and worship, or quote,
> Christian
> > > > >market songs.  I believe there is definitely a need, however, where
> > I seem
> > > > >to be drawn to is the Christian values and principles, wrapped in
> a less
> > > > >Christianese view by those who do not yet share those same values.
> > That is
> > > > >to say a secular market that is being infiltrated by  the Word in a
> > manner
> > > > >it can be affective outside of the Christian arena, if that is making
> > > sense
> > > > >to you. Anyway, that is where things sit, and in the end I hope and
> > pray I
> > > > >am on God's trek for my life and not running off with my own agenda, I
> > > pray
> > > > >for stuff and he supplies it so I assume I'm where I need to be
> > right now
> > > > >and continue to seek his direction. This all seems to me so selfish
> > in my
> > > > >mind in a way, yet peace of it as a whole is overwhelming.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >    You are richer today if you have laughed, given, or forgiven
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >    If you want people to quit poking holes in your boat, put them in the
> > >boat with you
>
>Brad
>
>    Don't wait for six strong men to take you to church