Interesting!  Do you mean that if I mounted a vertical antenna on the ground
right outside my window on the first floor it would work better than if I
put it on a mast?  That's too easy!!  I sure hope that's correct because it
will answer lots of problems.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Portable Antenna Needed for HF Rig


>I concur with Lou's thoughts here.  My solution for a dipole in the trees
>is
> to put an outdoor scrreen-door type spring or loop two of them together at
> the
> end of each insulator and then run the rope from the other end of the
> spring.
> This allows the antenna to stretch and sway, and should help it remain
> aloft
> unless a limb crashes down on it.  But, like Lew said, if that happens,
> most
> any other antenna would be knocked out too.
>
> I think that is the simplest, as very few verticals perform well without a
> good radial system, unless you mount it right at ground level.
>
> Steve, K8SP
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Portable Antenna Needed for HF Rig
>
>
> Hi Matthew.  The Butternut vertical would probably serve you well.  A lot
> of verticals would work if you don't mind putting out radials.  However, I
> have found that wire antennas and trees aren't necessarily
> incompatible.  You just have to pick a method that will take up the sway
> of
> the trees.  I have used the pulley on the end support with a counterweight
> method very successfully.
>
> While it is true that falling limbs can take out a wire antenna, that is
> equally true of a vertical as I found out when a large part of my willow
> tree took out my first GAP Titan antenna--smashed it flat!
>
> By the way, the GAP will work but it is a lot of money, and I am starting
> to find out that it has a way of going away abruptly with near misses from
> lightning.  I'm thinking that my next vertical will probably be one of the
> butternut antennas.
>
> 73, Lou K2LKK
>
>
> At 09:33 AM 8/6/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hi, Folks!  I have an old Tentec 525 Argosy that I want to use at my YL's
>>house.  Problem is, I don't have a tower for an antenna and stringing it
>>up
>>through the trees isn't a good idea either as we get lots of wind where
>>she
>>lives.  Any idea as to where I can find a vertical I can erect, along with
>>an automatic antenna tuner?  Will be using 40, 15, and 10 meters, and
>>maybe
>>more once I get my general class ticket.  Any ideas would be greatly
>>appreciated.--Matthew Chao, N1IBB.
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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