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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:16:39 +0000
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Oh I see what you are saying this is true.  But we do not inharit the sin.  That is what I was thinking.  thanks Angel.  

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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is

IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter  '74
-KC- Ministries


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> Children do suffer the consequences of a parent's sin.  Look at all the
> crack babies and the babies with aids.  It may not be nice to think of but
> it is true never the less.  Our entire family does suffer when one of us
> sins in some way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> 
> 
> > No.  Man is responsible for his own sin.  If we were blind for someone
> elses sin everyone in the world would be handicapped in someway.  There is a
> verse that says all man are responsible for his own sin.  I know in the old
> testimentbefore Jesus there were generational curses but Jesus wiped that
> all away.  I know there are those of you who know where the appropriate
> verses are.  We were born early due to the consiquences of our mothers
> drinking and such but not because of sin.  I know drinking is a sin but God
> would not punish us for it.
> >
> > --
> > I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there
> is
> >
> > IN GOD WE TRUST
> > Karen Carter  '74
> > -KC- Ministries
> >
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > Perhaps we were just predestined to be blind ha ha.  Seriously, though,
> > > don't you thing blindness can be just a consequence of a previous action
> or
> > > condition of our parents?  My mother was malnourished as a child because
> my
> > > grandparents were very poor.  She also smoked and drank while she
> carried
> > > me.  She never had any prenatal care till I threatened to get out of
> there
> > > altogether by miscarrying.  Then she went up to Cleveland where there
> were
> > > doctors who could help her.  They did their best to keep me from coming
> to
> > > soon but I did at 26 weeks along.  My mother told me the doctor gave her
> > > medication to try to keep me in the womb even on Sundays at his office.
> My
> > > being born prematurely is what caused my blindness.  This is a mere
> > > consequence of all the hardships my mother had to endure and of the care
> she
> > > took of herself prior to my being born.  Many times people don't manage
> > > properly their diabetes or something which leads to consequences.  Don't
> you
> > > think this could be true?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Kathy,
> > > >
> > > > You wrote...
> > > > "Why is it easier to believe that God can cure a back ache or a head
> ache
> > > > that can't be seen and is totally subjective and not my eyes, which
> would
> > > > actually require physical reconstruction?"
> > > >
> > > > Bingo sister! It is curious too why, and perhaps it is me only, that
> we
> > > > hear of folks being healed of one leg longer than the other and not
> one
> > > > like us with an obvious life changing ailment??? Why is that or is it
> just
> > > > me? Also you are right in saying many walk away looking at our's or
> > > other's
> > > > situations "Gee I'm thankful I'm not in that situation". I did even
> see
> > > > some of that in the devotion Rhonda posted. It is sooooo easy for
> people
> > > to
> > > > say "God has blessed you with the ability to handle your situation,
> > > > praise  and glory to him who gave you patience and look all you
> learned
> > > > from this situation", and then they hop in their car and drive
> > > > home.  Granted I bet we do the same with those we feel have harder
> cards
> > > to
> > > > play in life. It is a different perspective when   someone with an
> > > > affliction gives glory for the illness, but to me, and I reluctantly
> say
> > > > anything here as I said I don't want to pull at anyone's beliefs that
> > > > enable them to cope, but I can't see  glory in that either.  Perhaps
> I'm
> > > > not spiritually mature to that point yet, maybe that's it. I do
> however
> > > see
> > > > a gigantic  opportunity for people to see God's glory in my healing. I
> > > know
> > > > many blind vendors here in WI, plus having been blind for sometime
> now,
> > > > gotten to know many blind folks, and of course we become pegged as the
> > > > blind guy who does this or does that by sighted folks, and then of
> course
> > > > our relatives, think of that impact. I wonder what they'd do or say or
> > > > wonder if they saw me driving next week, looking them square in the
> eye,
> > > > waving and smiling hahaha? Now there's opportunity for glory. And you
> know
> > > > what? Isn't that what Jesus meant and demonstrated with the blind guy
> when
> > > > the disciples asked him who sinned this man or his parents? And Jesus
> said
> > > > neither but for the glory of God, then he spit in mud, swiped his eyes
> and
> > > > said wash off dude and you'll be flashing them baby blues. And didn't
> the
> > > > blind man give credit to Jesus? Who in turn gave credit to the
> > > > Father?  Perhaps I am a bit *snapping fingers* what's the word I'm
> looking
> > > > for... rebellious? Brash? No no, I don't know the word, upfront
> > > > maybe???  anyway it is almost  rather than to say God wills me this
> way
> > > and
> > > > get's glory out of it,  I  can't help  not hiding my thoughts in
> saying
> > > "OK
> > > > God. Point blank here, no more games, no more fooling around with this
> > > > thing. Do you heal or don't you? And if so, why not me so I can fix
> what
> > > is
> > > > out of your will and move on with the life you given me in a way I was
> > > > originally equipped to do! If you don't then I know the score and I'll
> > > fall
> > > > in place and accept that."  I don't mean that disrespectfully, but I
> also
> > > > can't feel one way and hide it from him. That's just foolishness.
> > > >
> > > > Brad

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