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David,

I agree we probably can't free the prisoners which is why scripture in 
essence said "visit" them, and I found it  curious as well that it also 
said to "visit"  the sick. However, it didn't say we couldn't pray or 
shouldn't pray in that visit. Some scriptures do say pray about such 
things, yet as you say and I think Kathy said same, no apparent change 
comes forth. Your explanation makes my curiously searching and sometimes 
synical mind say "If prayer, from a lack of faith even from word of 
faithers,  doesn't help the sick, why do we ask for prayer for it on lists 
as this? And if it doesn't work for sickness, why would it work for 
anything then?" Then why do we pray at all. Also what measure of faith is 
needed for a major miracle as oppose to a minor one, and are there 
categories of miracles? Is a miraculous financial miracle any lesser or 
greater than a miraculous recovery from an evident fatal illness? Do I have 
only enough faith to extract God's healing on this cold but not enough for 
the flu for example? I don't mean to be contrare , this is just what comes 
to my mind, and I know  I have much to learn about such things.

Bad mind bad bad bad *smile*.

Brad

At 01:43 AM 1/25/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>Brad, it seems to me that Jesus, being omniscient, and having
>full understanding of our human character and limitations,
>would realize that most of us could provide food, clothing,
>and/or shelter for needy people, if it our will to do so.  We could
>even visit the sick, and offer them some level of comfort.  But we
>must face reality.  Most of us don't have the faith that God will
>perform major miracles when we pray.  Not even the word of
>faith people have that kind of faith; otherwise there would be
>many more testimonies of healings throughout the world, and a
>lot less begging for money!  LOL!  We could visit the prisoners,
>but it might be against the law to free them.
>David
>Don't let the god of this world be the God of your world.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:11 AM
>Subject: Scripture ponderment
>
>
>I read the below scripture, when you are done I have a question to present.
>
>Matthew 25:34-40
>
>34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come, you who are
>blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the
>foundation of the world.
>35 "For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and
>you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
>36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in
>prison, and you came to Me.'
>37 "Then the righteous will answer Him,"Lord, when did we see You hungry,
>and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
>38 "And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and
>clothe You?
>39 "When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
>40 "The King will answer and say to them, "Truly I say to you, to the
>extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of
>them, you did it to Me.
>
>OK here is an outline of my thoughts...
>
>1. I'm hungry. You fed me. You fixed the situation makes sense.
>2. I'm thirsty. You gave me drink. Again fixed it sensibly.
>3. I'm a stranger. You invited me in. Again fixed the situation.
>4. I'm naked. You clothed me, yep makes sense.
>5. I was sick. You visited me. Visited me? Visited!! Just visited?  Why not
>heal?
>6. I was imprisoned. You came to me . Came to me? Why not free me?
>
>All the prior instances were directly fixed with the curative. I wonder why
>the tone changed with sickness and imprisonment? Curious minds want to know.
>
>Brad

Brad

   Character is  how you conduct  yourself when no one is looking

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