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Date:         Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:51:57 -0500
From: Brad D <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Fw: ANOTHER COFFEE BREAK: JEZEBEL & WITCHCRAFT III
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I was getting along pretty well with Mister coffee for a while there, but
then our biblical interpretations seemed to part ways a bit. While I agree
that foretelling future events is only a small portion of a prophets work,
scripture warns against following such. In fact I struggle to find any
example of foretelling future events past Jesus' words nor
find  instruction or giftings in that area to the apostles and/or
disciples who were referred to as prophets of the day. So today's
prophets, that is those  prophesying the word of God, I don't believe are
gifted as such, thus no need to worry about following such. I believe we
do get words individual to our own lives and perhaps to those we may know
individually who are in need but that may well be wisdom alone, but a
proclamation of events to come in the world, I don't think so. I welcome
scripture otherwise though. One can obviously take a good stab and say
that there will be famine in the lands, wars and great terror among the
nations, and on and on and on, but that is just paying attention to news,
reading what has already been written regarding these end times and
nothing revealing by God in any special way. I was listening to our
Christian radio station one day back when the space shuttle Discovery was
due to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere. Of course there was a section of
the thermal blanket missing, and even I was doubting their calmness about
it not posing a threat to the astronauts inside after knowing such was the
cause of the tragedy a few years back. Let alone this piece  that was
missing was covering a fuel tank. Anyway, back to the radio station.  One
of the morning show guys was talking about a radio show he tuned into the
night before which had a preacher on there telling the interviewer that he
had a word from god that the Discovery would crash, and was foretelling
this openly. Well we all know  the only thing that crashed was this
preachers credibility. So, indeed, we ought not dismiss false foretelling
as such.

Mister Coffee is also taking the conservative stand on doctrines teaching
healing and etc. And that all died out with the "last prophet". First if
Mister Coffee is stating we misjudge or mistakenly discredit prophets over
a non exact foretelling by a prophet, how can he state there was indeed a
"last prophet". The disciples and apostles were given written instruction
to do the work of Christ, and greater works. Not, in deeds, as some preach
but greater in number I suppose as to referring to his Earthly ministry. I
doubt anyone can top dying for the world's sake who some will reject. And
John said Jesus did so much it was too much to write, so I'd say we have
yet a long way to go in greater works to even come close. However I do
agree with Mister coffee that there are doctrines which prey on the
itching ears of those who do not find abrasions on them selves from
rubbing up against the word of God. Those that do all manner of things in
Jesus name, and as long as you wrap up a phrase  with   "in Jesus mighty
name" they tend to think it is OK. Well,  I am aware that I may not have
the perfect bent on God's word at my aged 40 year old self, in fact I'm
positive of it, but there are staple points of doctrine  I may not
understand, but believe nonetheless, and I've been given enough measure of
wisdom to know if I am not disciplined now and again, or find reproof, or
otherwise corrected through Gods' word, I am not living it.

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