Hi Kathy and Everyone,

I do agree with your answers here, and I really like what you said.

Oh, I could ask a question here, but I better not. <grin> lol. It doesn't
have anything to do with wine, but it does have something to do with too
much of anything! <grin> lol.

I'll just say this. I'm sure it's a sin to do too much of anything that is
not pleasing to God or drink or eat too much of anything.

Just my thoughts.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 07:46 AM 12/2/2005, you wrote:
>Brad,
>          I hope that there is nothing wrong with drinking a glass of
>wine before or during dinner with my spouse cause, if there is, I"m
>sunk!    GRIN!
>
>          The bible study thing is a bit different.  It would depend
>on the group.  For example, I wouldn't mind, for myself,  but I know
>that there are a lot of tea totalers in our church who would be
>offended at not only drinking wine around the bible, but they would
>also disagree with my first answer, so, for their sakes, I would
>refrain.  When we have our sadar at church, we do serve both wine and
>grape juice and I'm totally comfortable, in that context with
>drinking a glass of wine in front of those who choose the grape
>juice, but that's just me.
>          One thing that I just thought of that could make a differnce
>for me with when to drink and when to abstain from having a glass of
>wine has to do with context.  When I'm having a glass of wine with
>Greg, it is usually at the end of the day.  We are just relaxing and
>unwinding and being together.  He doesn't have any meetings to rush
>off too and we don't have any other responsibilities left but to
>enjoy each other and the relationship with the kids.  While I enjoy
>bible study, I'm not sure that I would consider it relaxing.  I want
>to be alert and ready to learn and grasp what the word has to
>offer.  A glass of wine wouldn't be totally bad here, but it could
>take the edge off the learning curve.  I've heard of some churches
>that have discussion groups after church in which the sermon is
>discussed and a glass of sherry may be offered.  It does happen and,
>I've heard of this more in churches that are considered more high
>church, or litergical, but it does happen.  We don't do it, just in
>case you're wondering, but I have talked to some who have
>participated in such discussions elsewhere.  When you think about it,
>coffee is a drug too and we think nothing of offering it all through
>the day, including after church on Sunday mornings.
>          Anyway, for me, a drink isn't a sin, but the abuse of
>alcohol, as the abuse of food, (see gluttony), is!  Boy, I can't wait
>to see what can of worms I've unleashed!
>Kathy
>
>
>At 10:57 PM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
> >OK I've got two questions for you to ponder, well actually there are three
> >questions. This has nothing to do with our "food" discussion but rather a
> >different thing altogether that I'll give clue to in a posting  a little
> >down the road. And, please do not feel you need to reply, you don't have
> >to, of course you are welcome to, but you don't have to as such can tend to
> >be controversial in Christians. Ready? Here we go.
> >
> >1. Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing a glass of wine with
> >your spouse over dinner ?
> >
> >2. Do you think there is anything wrong with sharing a glass of wine with
> >the group before, during or after a Bible study?
> >
> >3. If the two questions above have two different answers   what justifies
> >the difference? If they have the same, what justifies  their similarity?
> >
> >Brad