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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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I believe he probably does that.  He lets us wonder just enought tso we won't get to lost.  The only way he would allow us to get lost is if we told him to get lost. And turned our backs on him.

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When Satan is knocking on your door.  Simply say, "Jesus could you get that for me?"
Karen Carter '74



> Kathy,
>
> I remember when my kids were younger. I'd preach and preach to them to
> stay close to us when we were in stores and such that they didn't get
> lost, and you know, kids will test and ignore and just do what they want.
> That you do know very well with Chris. Anyway, to teach them a lesson if
> they ran off, I'd let them run off without chasing them, then I'd watch
> them from isle to isle in the store as they messed around until
> they  realized they weren't by mom and dad, they thought that was cool,
> then they began to look for mom and dad, and I'd evade their search yet
> keeping an eye on them for safety sake. I'd let them get good and lost
> feeling to let them feel what it is like not to have the protection and
> comfort of mom and dad by them until they obviously learned their lesson.
> I wonder if that isn't what God does with us some times.
>
> Brad
>
>
> on 07:34 AM 8/31/2005, Kathy Du Bois said:
> Brad and Ned,
> I believe that this is what is meant by, "the dark night of the
> soul."  We all go through it, usually more than once in our spiritual
> growth, but that is what makes the touch of the Father so much more
> wonderful when it happens.
> Kathy
>
> At 10:13 PM 8/30/2005, you wrote:
>  >Ned,
>  >
>  >We have all had these, and if we haven't? We will. It is so , how might
>  >one say, not necessarily frustrating, but empty, distant, lonely, and I
>  >guess yes frustrating the longer this goes on, yet equally as
> comforting,
>  >secure, warm, protected, and peaceful, when we reconnect with those
>  >feelings that we  haven't been forgotten or abandoned. With my wife in
> day
>  >care, and having raised a couple kids, it is at such times as described
> in
>  >the commentary, that I realize we are just like those little babies that
>  >cry when you put them down and will only stop when they are picked back
> up
>  >again, having that physical touch of an adult to know things will be OK
>  >and they are not alone. As they get older they are weaned from that and
>  >learn that they can explore on their own while under the watchful eye of
>  >the adult and not the need for a physical touch all the time.
>  >
>  >Brad
>  >
>  >
>  >on 07:29 AM 8/30/2005, Ned Benton said:
>  >Have you ever had those times when it seemed you couldn't reach God with
>  >your prayers nor feel His presence, a dry time?  Here is another of the
>  >Campus Fellowship devotions.  I hope it helps you all.
>  >
>  >Ned
>  >
>  >
>  >CCF   Survival Guide
>  >Tuesday  8/30/05
>  >Faith, Not Feelings
>  >"THE LORD HAS HIDDEN HIMSELF BUT I TRUST HIM."  ISAIAH 8:17 (TEV)
>  >
>  >You wake up one morning and all your "spiritual feelings" are gone.  You
>  >pray, but
>  >nothing happens.  You rebuke the devil, but it doesn't change
>  >anything.  You
>  >go through
>  >spiritual exercises, have your friends pray for you, confess every sin
> you
>  >can imagine,
>  >then you go around asking forgiveness of everyone you know.  You fast,
>  >still
>  >nothing.
>  >You begin to wonder how long this spiritual gloom will last.  It feels
>  >like
>  >your
>  >prayers bounce off the ceiling.  In utter desperation you cry out:
> "What's
>  >the matter
>  >with me?"
>  >Nothing!  This is a normal part of the maturing of our faith in God.  We
>  >all
>  >go through
>  >it!  It's painful, but absolutely vital to developing our faith.  God is
>  >always present,
>  >even when we are unaware of Him.  His presence is too profound to be
>  >measured by
>  >intellect or emotion.  He's more concerned that we trust Him, than that
> we
>  >feel Him.
>  >Faith, not feelings, is what pleases God.
>  >So what can you do when you're going through a time when God seems
>  >distant?
>  >Remind
>  >yourself that He is not, regardless of your feelings.  Focus on God's
>  >unchanging
>  >love for you.  Cling to His promises.
>  >During times of spiritual dryness, rely on God's Word, not your
> emotions.
>  >Realize
>  >that God is taking you to a deeper level of maturity.  Any friendship
>  >based
>  >on emotion
>  >is shallow indeed. So don't be troubled by trouble. God's grace is still
>  >in
>  >full
>  >force.  He's for you, even when you don't feel Him.

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