oh, crap  the new orleam times piciune has gotten
award after award writing series of articles after
series predicting this would happen just as it did for
years and years. it is pure bs that natural buffers
were took away. the fact is that the damn city was 20
foot below sea level.
  go out in your back yard and dig a hole. put in a
bucket of water. it fills up. that, mag,  is what
happened. new orleans was built in a hole and katrina
filled up the hole.
  that should be a simple enough illistration for
everyone to understand.
   it is so wet down there that they can't even bury
anybody. wet lands drained, my arse. oh, have we
noticed the temps being up, has anyone noticed that
the sun is going thru a hotter cycle, more solor
flares? it has been reported. yes the temps are up.
becouse the sun is hotter. KYOTO, HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THIS. just like in the 30's and 40's when we got
this kind of cycle and we got the hurricanes then too.
how the hell could that have happened? george bush was
not even born yet. BY THE WAY THE ICE BURGS WERE DOING
THE SAME THING THEY ARE DOING NOW. don't anybody study
history anymore? maybe the question should be does
anybody teach history any more? does anyone know why
greenland was named greenland. IT WAS GREEN WHEN IT
WAS NAMED, NOT WHITE. AS IT IS NOW.

i also find it hard to believe that gov. blanco did
nothing but whine like the mayor did that somebody
else was not doing something like they forgot they
were elected mayor and governor. she forgot she
commanded her national guard, she forgot she was the
one to order a evacuation, she forgot she commanded
the state police, she fortgot to execute a plan. the
mayor forgot he was elected and commanded the city
police, he let school busses that were just parked
stay parked that could be used to help those with no
cars get out. it is not like they were going to have
school in the middle of a storm. he forgot that there
was a noted criminal element in his city and he thinks
they will just cease to be criminals, maybe he just
forgot he had a brain to use.

hell yes the mayor failed and so did governor blanco.
then on top of that the feds failed. FEMA FAILED, THE
DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FAILED. THANK G-D FOR THE
US. MILITARY.
  the whole system failed.
the governors and legislatures and the president and
congress had better fix the system. there may well be
terrorist bringing in a wreapon of mass destruction as
i write, there may be another monster storm brewing in
the atlantic, los angeles or san fran can have a
catstrophic earthquake, and let's not forget TSUNAMIS
can hit our coast too.
our elected officials at every level had better fix
the system becouse the system failed at every level.


give me a break. every body go out tommorrow and dig
the hole and pour water in it and report back if the
hole magically could not be filled up. until then i'll
turn off the computer and get a nights sleep and cool
down.

sorry for the explosion.



 --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Ken,
> I don't know. It sure looks like business interests
> helped cause Katrina,
> in that businesses in LA  drained so much of the
> wetlands that it took away
> that natural buffer there. It  sure looks like water
> surface temps had a
> lot to do with how much stronger there hurricanes
> are getting.
>
> I find it hard to believe that the governor did not
> know she had to request
> the natl guard assistance, but you are correct in
> that blame is
> everywhere, from the senators and congress folks who
> would not ratify kyoto
> agreement even though Clinton signed it, to the
> states of LA and Mis. who
> did not have plans -  and also did not have the
> sense to do a state tax to
> help pay for things when feds said see your money go
> to homeland
> security...
>
> many of those who stayed behind were those who are
> the elderly poor or
> disabled poor... How were they supposed to leave the
> area? AND why was it
> that when a non-flooded area offered to help, the
> feds said no thanks.
> there are just so many stories of help that was
> offered but turned down.
>
> Mag
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> [log in to unmask]
> If you need a business card designed, please email
> me.
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 9/5/2005 7:42:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> preparedness of FEMA.
> >
> > dear mag, they can put an oil well in now that you
> > could not find if you did not know where it was.
> > hydrogen cars are a good 20 years to feasably
> being
> > sold to the public. electric cars are good for
> short
> > range local driving if you hold down the mileage.
> the
> > hybrids on the market now is the best bet if they
> can
> > get them down a little so that most average people
> can
> > aford them.
> > the idea that business men ant to poison the air
> and
> > water that they and their kids have to breath and
> > drink just like everybody else is irrational.
> >   i am saying taxes are a big part of the price of
> > gas. if the government can do anything quickly
> about
> > the high prices, that is it. if you don't want
> prices
> > to come down, then leave it alone. you know if gas
> > keeps going up, your food is going to go up, your
> mass
> > transit will go up, you name your consumer
> products
> > and the cost og fuel will affect it. if you do not
> > want the only quick fix the government can effect,
> > then don't critisize any of them from bush down.
> >   long term we are going to have to quit listening
> to
> > irrational groups and build refineries, drill for
> oil,
> > build nuclear power plants and other things.
> >   by the way if you want to put the drilling in
> anwar
> > in prospective the 2000 acres where drilling is
> > proposed compared to all of anwar would be like a
> > postage stamp on your average living room floor.
> and
> > it is not pristime wilderness, it is a danm sheet
> of
> > ice, contrary to what the media portrays.
> >   like i said this fuel crises now is showing the
> pure
> > folly of the politics of the last 20 years or so.
> and
> > like i said some of us saw it comming.
> >
> >
> > --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > it is my understanding that companies have been
> > > buying up patents for
> > > alternative energy vehicles but have not yet put
> > > them on market because
> > > they want to squeeze every drop of oil money
> they
> > > can. So I am not sure if
> > > drilling for our own oil and messing up the
> > > environment is the thing to do.
> > > They are waiting too damn long to put these alt.
> > > vehicles on market.
> > >
> > > My question is, why are you saying  roll back
> the
> > > gas tax??
> > >
> > > mag
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > If you need a business card designed, please
> email
> > > me.
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: 9/5/2005 2:51:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> > > preparedness of FEMA.
> > > >
> > > > our governor removed state tax from gas here
> in
> > > > georgia, write your governor and ask that nc
> do
> > > the
> > > > same. by the way i was in north carolina this
> > > morning
> > > > and could have filled up at 3.19.
> > > > write your congressman and senators and remove
> the
> > > > federal tax on gas.
> > > >
> > > > but, of course there is a gas shortage. there
> was
> > > a
> > > > short supply before the storm. roughly 25 per
> cent
> > > of
> > > > the countries energy comes from the gulf
> coast.
> > > > refineries are under water. we have not built
> a
> > > new
> > > > refinery since 1975. most of the refineries
> were
> > > > running at near capicity so those left can't
> take
> > > up
> > > > the slack. this just points up the folly of
> not
> > > > drilling for our own oil and building our
> > > capacity.
> > > > the very folly of the politics that has
> blocked
> > > this
> > > > for years. some of us saw it comming.
> > > >
> > > > --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We're feeling the effects here in NC too,
> Bobby
> > > -
> > > > > there is a gas shortage
> > > > > here. too, and I even saw that a gas station
> > > down
> > > > > East was charging $4.65 a
> > > > > gallon!
> > > > >
> > > > > Kat
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday 03 September 2005 3:53 pm, you
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > What you are not seeing on national TV are
> the
> > > > > collateral problems. For
> > > > > > instance, the entire city of Memphis is
> out of
> > > > > gasoline! I just talked to a
> > > > > > lady from Baton Rogue and they have a
> curfew
> > > > > because of rape and gunfire.
> > > > > > It doesn't take Einstein to realize to
> ripple
> > > > > effect re: pipelines, etc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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