amber is right. it would happern in any city. one
lesson here is that you can't depend on government to
protect you. the lawlessness will break out when
government no longer works.

you said it better than i did.

--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dearest Ken,
>
>   Your frustration is understood here, as well as
> your anger and I am sure a measure of helpness in
> the face of total desvastation. From where I stand -
> it was both a forseeable and a preventable scenario.
> I was stunned to find out the poor hadn't been put
> on buses and evacuted - what kind of an evacution
> leaves people behind? Amber wasn't surprised - but
> thinks I am rather naive. We have become a very fat,
> complacent, lazy, greedy and thoughtless society. I
> doubt there is city or town in the country with an
> adequate evacution plan in place. People ability to
> put there heads in the sand or think it won't happen
> here. I know The DC area doesn't. Natural forces can
> strike anywhere anytime. I am still waiting to here
> from friends with family in both Mississippi and
> Lousiana. I have hoping no one on our list was
> anywhere near there. Playing the blame game doesn't
> fix what wrong. No we need to mop up the mess, help
> people get their lives together and for Pete's sake
> make sure this doesn't happen again.
>
>                                Trisha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:57 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> preparedness of FEMA.
>
>
> oh, crap  the new orleam times piciune has gotten
> award after award writing series of articles after
> series predicting this would happen just as it did
> for
> years and years. it is pure bs that natural buffers
> were took away. the fact is that the damn city was
> 20
> foot below sea level.
>   go out in your back yard and dig a hole. put in a
> bucket of water. it fills up. that, mag,  is what
> happened. new orleans was built in a hole and
> katrina
> filled up the hole.
>   that should be a simple enough illistration for
> everyone to understand.
>    it is so wet down there that they can't even bury
> anybody. wet lands drained, my arse. oh, have we
> noticed the temps being up, has anyone noticed that
> the sun is going thru a hotter cycle, more solor
> flares? it has been reported. yes the temps are up.
> becouse the sun is hotter. KYOTO, HAD NOTHING TO DO
> WITH THIS. just like in the 30's and 40's when we
> got
> this kind of cycle and we got the hurricanes then
> too.
> how the hell could that have happened? george bush
> was
> not even born yet. BY THE WAY THE ICE BURGS WERE
> DOING
> THE SAME THING THEY ARE DOING NOW. don't anybody
> study
> history anymore? maybe the question should be does
> anybody teach history any more? does anyone know why
> greenland was named greenland. IT WAS GREEN WHEN IT
> WAS NAMED, NOT WHITE. AS IT IS NOW.
>
> i also find it hard to believe that gov. blanco did
> nothing but whine like the mayor did that somebody
> else was not doing something like they forgot they
> were elected mayor and governor. she forgot she
> commanded her national guard, she forgot she was the
> one to order a evacuation, she forgot she commanded
> the state police, she fortgot to execute a plan. the
> mayor forgot he was elected and commanded the city
> police, he let school busses that were just parked
> stay parked that could be used to help those with no
> cars get out. it is not like they were going to have
> school in the middle of a storm. he forgot that
> there
> was a noted criminal element in his city and he
> thinks
> they will just cease to be criminals, maybe he just
> forgot he had a brain to use.
>
> hell yes the mayor failed and so did governor
> blanco.
> then on top of that the feds failed. FEMA FAILED,
> THE
> DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FAILED. THANK G-D FOR THE
> US. MILITARY.
>   the whole system failed.
> the governors and legislatures and the president and
> congress had better fix the system. there may well
> be
> terrorist bringing in a wreapon of mass destruction
> as
> i write, there may be another monster storm brewing
> in
> the atlantic, los angeles or san fran can have a
> catstrophic earthquake, and let's not forget
> TSUNAMIS
> can hit our coast too.
> our elected officials at every level had better fix
> the system becouse the system failed at every level.
>
>
> give me a break. every body go out tommorrow and dig
> the hole and pour water in it and report back if the
> hole magically could not be filled up. until then
> i'll
> turn off the computer and get a nights sleep and
> cool
> down.
>
> sorry for the explosion.
>
>
>
>  --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> > I don't know. It sure looks like business
> interests
> > helped cause Katrina,
> > in that businesses in LA  drained so much of the
> > wetlands that it took away
> > that natural buffer there. It  sure looks like
> water
> > surface temps had a
> > lot to do with how much stronger there hurricanes
> > are getting.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe that the governor did
> not
> > know she had to request
> > the natl guard assistance, but you are correct in
> > that blame is
> > everywhere, from the senators and congress folks
> who
> > would not ratify kyoto
> > agreement even though Clinton signed it, to the
> > states of LA and Mis. who
> > did not have plans -  and also did not have the
> > sense to do a state tax to
> > help pay for things when feds said see your money
> go
> > to homeland
> > security...
> >
> > many of those who stayed behind were those who are
> > the elderly poor or
> > disabled poor... How were they supposed to leave
> the
> > area? AND why was it
> > that when a non-flooded area offered to help, the
> > feds said no thanks.
> > there are just so many stories of help that was
> > offered but turned down.
> >
> > Mag
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > [log in to unmask]
> > If you need a business card designed, please email
> > me.
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: 9/5/2005 7:42:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> > preparedness of FEMA.
> > >
> > > dear mag, they can put an oil well in now that
> you
> > > could not find if you did not know where it was.
> > > hydrogen cars are a good 20 years to feasably
> > being
> > > sold to the public. electric cars are good for
> > short
> > > range local driving if you hold down the
> mileage.
> > the
> > > hybrids on the market now is the best bet if
> they
> > can
> > > get them down a little so that most average
> people
> > can
> > > aford them.
> > > the idea that business men ant to poison the air
> > and
> > > water that they and their kids have to breath
> and
> > > drink just like everybody else is irrational.
>
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