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That's worrisome.  Increasing the abortion rate will result in fewer
young people to care for the elderly.  What happens as the entire
population ages?

----- Original Message -----
From: salifou issoufou <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: It's Now A Curse To Be Black

> Wilmot,
>
> Last semester, in my economic research class, one of my classmates
> wrote a paper on this subject (we had the choice to pick topics not
> related to economics). He was trying to show that the crime rate
> could be reduced by increasing abortion . I don't quite remember
> 'the ins and outs' of the methodology he used (but I know he din't
> single out a specific race, maybe it was because I was in the
> class), so I emailed him and asked him to remind me the methodology
> and data he used for his paper. When he gets back to me, I will
> forward the message to you all.
>
> Cheers
>
> Salifou
>
>
>
> "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org **
>
> And how did that person figure it out? I really would
> like to know. How does one predict with certainty
> that an unborn child will be a criminal? Via
> statistics? If that's the case, then the whole human
> race should stop procreating. What a ridiculous idea!
>
> Rather than abort babies, why don't people just stop
> having sex! That would solve the problem, wouldn't
> it? No one would get hurt.
>
> - Wilmot
>
>
> --- VERA R CROWELL wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
> Actually, I have read that someone, I don't remember
> who, did say that due to abortion, the crime rate is
> lower than it would be otherwise.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu"
>
> Date: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:10 pm
>
> Subject: Re: It's Now A Curse To Be Black
>
>
>
> > ** Please visit our website:
> http://www.africanassociation.org **
> >
> > One more thing: I am troubled by the notion that
> > eliminating Black babies would reduce the crime
> rate.
> > This is the one thing about Bennett's statement that
>
> > bothers me the most. While it is true that
> > eliminating the Black contribution to crime would
> > reduce the rate of crime, it seems racist to me to
> > singly cite, think first that, or use an
> illustration
> > that, elimination of Black babies would be a
> solution
> > to crime.
> >
> > - Wilmot
> >
> >
> > --- "Wilmot B. Valhmu"
> wrote:
> >
> > > ** Please visit our website:
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> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Let's be careful how we read and hear. According
> to
> > > the quotes below, Bill Bennett said that one
> > > "could,"
> > > not "should," abort Black babies to reduce crime.
> > > (Note: I am by no means defending Bill Bennett.)
> > > People have the tendency to get emotional about
> > > things
> > > without thoroughly understanding what's being said
>
> > > or
> > > advocated. The forwarded e-mail below indicates
> > > that
> > > someone already believes that Bill Bennett said
> that
> > > Black babies "should" be aborted. From what I
> read,
> > > that's false.
> > >
> > > Needless to say, the word "could" indicates
> > > possibility or probability, while "should"
> indicates
> > > an imperative. They are not synonymous, nor do
> > > they
> > > mean the same. Please, let's note the difference
> > > before we get all hot under the collars.
> > >
> > > Having said that, I think it was stupid of Bill
> > > Bennett to make the statements or illustration
> > > attributed to him.
> > >
> > > - Wilmot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- VERA R CROWELL
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > ** Please visit our website:
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> > > It already is genocide. From BlackGenocide.org:
> > >
> > > Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched
> in
> > > the U.S. That number is surpassed in less than 3
> > > days
> > > by abortion.
> > >
> > > 1,452 African-American children are killed each
> day
> > > by
> > > the heinous act of abortion.
> > >
> > > 3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will
> > > abort
> > > their child.
> > >
> > > Since 1973 there has been over 13 million Black
> > > children killed and their precious mothers
> > > victimized
> > > by the U.S. abortion industry.
> > >
> > > I have often wondered how we have come to the
> place
> > > where you have black men and women espousing their
>
> > > belief that abortion is right and should be
> > > preserved
> > > legally. There was a time when black men and women
>
> > > would give their lives to preserve that of a black
>
> > > child. It is as if they believe that if they
> > > espouse
> > > the beliefs of the majority culture, then they
> > > become
> > > more like them. Foolish, foolish. The abortion
> rate
> > > for black women is twice that of white women. We
> are
> > > destroying ourselves.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: Devine Akabutu
> > >
> > > Date: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:36 am
> > >
> > > Subject: It's Now A Curse To Be Black
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Atsu,
> > > >
> > > > Should I take this toke seriously or just take
> it
> > > as
> > > a joke? An
> > > > expensive joke ! Reminds me of former Senate
> > > Majority leader Frits
> > > > (did I get the name right?).
> > > >
> > > > Will it not be "genocide" to abort ALL black
> > > babies?
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Devine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "J. Atsu Amegashie"
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bennett Under Fire for Remark on Crime and Black
>
> > > Abortions
> > > >
> > > > By Brian Faler
> > > > Special to The Washington Post
> > > > Friday, September 30, 2005; Page A05
> > > >
> > > > Democratic lawmakers and civil rights leaders
> > > denounced
> > > > conservative commentator
> > > > William J. Bennett yesterday for suggesting on
> his
> > > syndicated
> > > > radio show that
> > > > aborting black children would reduce the U.S.
> > > crime
> > > rate.
> > > >
> > > > The former U.S. education secretary-turned-talk
> > > show
> > > host said
> > > > Wednesday that
> > > > "if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if
> > > that
> > > were your
> > > > sole purpose --
> > > > you could abort every black baby in this
> country,
> > > and your crime
> > > > rate would go
> > > > down." Bennett quickly added that such an idea
> > > would
> > > be "an
> > > > impossible,ridiculous and morally reprehensible
> > > thing to do." But,
> > > > he said, "your crime
> > > > rate would go down."
> > > >
> > > > Bennett's comments, flagged by the liberal news
> > > media watchdog
> > > > group Media
> > > > Matters for America, were quickly condemned by
> > > Senate Minority
> > > > Leader Harry M.
> > > > Reid (D-Nev.), who issued a statement demanding
> > > that
> > > Bennett
> > > > apologize. Rep.
> > > > John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) circulated a letter,
> > > signed by 10 of
> > > > his colleagues,
> > > > demanding that the Salem Radio Network suspend
> > > Bennett's show.
> > > >
> > > > Wade Henderson, the executive director of the
> > > Leadership
> > > > Conference on Civil
> > > > Rights, demanded that the show be canceled.
> > > >
> > > > "Bennett's statement is outrageous. As a former
> > > secretary of
> > > > education, he
> > > > should know better," Henderson said. "His
> program
> > > should be pulled
> > > > from the
> > > > air."
> > > >
> > > > A spokeswoman for Salem Radio Network did not
> > > return
> > > three calls
> > > > requestingcomment.
> > > >
> > > > Bennett, education secretary under
> then-President
> > > Ronald Reagan
> > > > and director of
> > > > drug policy during George H.W. Bush's
> > > administration
> > > has written a
> > > > number of
> > > > books stressing the importance of traditional
> > > values, including
> > > > the 1993
> > > > bestseller "The Book of Virtues."
> > > >
> > > > In 2003, he admitted he was a heavy gambler
> after
> > > news reports
> > > > that he had lost
> > > > millions of dollars in casinos.
> > > >
> > > > Bennett's comments came Wednesday, during a
> > > discussion on his talk
> > > > show "Morning
> > > > in America." A caller had suggested that Social
> > > Security would be
> > > > better funded
> > > > if abortion had not been legalized in 1973
> because
> > > the nation
> > > > would have more
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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