Ken,
Bush did lie about something as important as whether or not to send
our citizens to die in foreign land. He was warned and did know there
were no WMD's. That evidence is pretty clear. I cannot understand how
you can defend that point.
Beyond that all the attacks on benefits for the disabled and the
rollbacks of hard won things people who suffer need are at the hands
of the Republicans. This is a mean spirited uncaring group who stole
2 elections. He didn't win in Ohio legally last time and he lost
Florida the first time.
I live and am renting to returned soldiers and I can tell you they
are wrecks and for what? OIL!! You cannot send out a 19 year old
sniper to kill people and have him get over 20 'hits' as they
euphemistically refer to killing people and not have emotional
problems. If you want to see a psychologist in the Army to help you
cope with this and what you have witnessed there then consider your
career dead.
One young man we rented to drove himself off a cliff 2 weeks after
his return. He was drunk as many of them are in order to stop the
feelings from coming out. This war casualty will not be counted by
the Bushites. The soldiers returning from Vietnam caused many social
problems and that will pale in the face of the social costs of this
war. Domestic violence will increase dramatically among soldiers and
many of them will not be able to recoup any sense of peace in their
lives. I am seeing this up close and personal more that I care
to. Even neocons are deserting him now.
At 07:49 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
>now mag, the definition of a lie is to tell something
>that you know is not true at the time you tell it.
>look it up.
> you guys who can't come up with anything but "bush
>lied" just do not know how foolish you sound. i love
>you, but, please, get past that tripe. bush as well as
>all your derm senators and intelligence around the
>world all said saddam had wmd. you do not say every
>body lied, only "bush lied."
> the truth is that nobody lied about wmd, becouse not
>a one of them knew that he did not have them and went
>ahead and said he did.
> get past the foolishness and get something
>substantial to say.
>
>--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Saddam is being tried for the atrocities he
> > perpetrated against the Kurds,
> > and Iranians, as well as murdering some of his own
> > people.
> >
> > Bush lying about weapons of mass destruction or
> > Clinton lying about his
> > affair; which is worse? I say bush's lies about
> > wmd is worse because
> > after they found no wmd, he made up several other
> > stories about why we are
> > there.
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Come visit my new store!
> > http://www.cafepress.com/TamarMag
> > visit my Blog at;
> > http://tamarmag-newsletters.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Anthony Arnold <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: 3/24/2006 5:19:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now iraq
> > war.
> > >
> > > I don't know what we're currently trying Hussein
> > and his brother for, but
> > > they had no involvement in September 11th, so why
> > are we over there
> > besides
> > > to take our frustration out on somebody. But on
> > the other hand, if I
> > would
> > > become the president tomorrow, I wouldn't pull out
> > immediately as some
> > would
> > > like to see, I would personally like to fix what
> > my country has done.
> > It's
> > > like if I accidentally dropped a cigarette on
> > somebody's carpet and it
> > burns
> > > a hole, I would feel oppogated to replace their
> > carpet, no matter what.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anthony
> > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > Kendall David Corbett
> > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:49 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now iraq war.
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Whether the Iraqis are better off is a tough call;
> > they may (or may not,
> > > some would argue) have greater civil liberties,
> > but their lives may be
> > > in greater immediate danger than they were under
> > Hussein. =20
> > >
> > > On the opposite side of that coin, many would
> > argue that we in the US
> > > are safer, but have had our civil liberties
> > eroded. It was said in the
> > > immediate post 9/11 period that the terrorists
> > wanted to destroy the
> > > American (read US) way of life, and they have made
> > a start toward that,
> > > IMHO.
> > >
> > > As I read UN Resolution 1441, it doesn't
> > explicitly give member states
> > > of the UN permission to undertake unilateral
> > military action against
> > > Iraq. That does seem to be permissible under UN
> > resolutions 678 and
> > > 687, which were signed in 1990 and 1991,
> > respectively. =20
> > >
> > > My point is that the armed forces presently
> > engaged as coalition
> > > partners do not wear UN uniforms, and as such are
> > not formally
> > > recognized as UN forces.
> > >
> > > Kendall=20
> > >
> > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> > >
> > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> > the unreasonable one
> > > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all
> > > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > >
> > > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now iraq war.
> > >
> > > actually resolution 1441 passed without desent,
> > but,
> > > then when it got time to actually follow through,
> > then
> > > the germans, french, and russians backpeddled and
> > > would not follow through. 1441 gave any member
> > nation
> > > the right to enforce it. the u.s. and the brits
> > with a
> > > few more did exactly that.=20
> > > it appears that the intelligence worldwide was
> > wrong
> > > on lagre amounts of weapons of mass destruction
> > unless
> > > you believe that ranking iragi general that says
> > they
> > > flew them to syria. the media is ignoring him. i'd
> > > guess some of you have heard nothing about him up
> > to
> > > just this email. but, either way i'll ask the
> > > question. do you think iragis are better off now
> > than
> > > before the invasion? your honest answer should
> > pretty
> > > well tell you if the war is right or wrong. don't
> > > wealsel out, they are either better off without
> > saddam
> > > or they were better off with him.=20
> > >
> > > --- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let me send this again, so the link stays
> > intact!
> > > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kendall David Corbett
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:59 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: dental question
> > > >=20
> > > > Anthony,
> > > >=20
> > > > President Bush tried to get UN approval for the
> > war
> > > > in Iraq, and was
> > > > turned down. He then formed a coalition of
> > partner
> > > > nations for the war,
> > > > which included the US, England, Australia,
> > Canada,
> > > > and a few others that
> > > > I can't recall right now.
> > > >=20
> > > > This is a link to an article in the Washington
> > Post
> > > > from August of 2002
> > > > that talks about members of the present
> > President
> > > > Bush's administration
> > > > saying that the President didn't even need
> > > > Congressional approval for
> > > > the present Iraq war, since Congress had
> > approved
> > > > the use of military
> > > > force in 1991 when Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the
> > > > Kuwaiti government made
> > > > a formal request for help.
> > > >=20
> > > >
> > >
> >
>www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61040-2002Aug25?language=3Dprinter
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Kendall=20
> > > >=20
> > > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > > > redundant!)
> > > >=20
> > > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> > the
> > > > unreasonable one
> > > > persists in trying to adapt the world to
> > himself.
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
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